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jacqueslacouth jacqueslacouth https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=48379
- KVRian
- 1149 posts since 18 Nov, 2004
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- KVRAF
- 3220 posts since 4 Jan, 2005
PC sucks too . But Id rather buy and build an i7 or i5 PC than get the shiny fruity brand computer . They do make a sweet laptop though . As for Logic , in the meantime I'd demo Cubase7 , StudioOne2 , and Live 9 Suite on your Mac to see if you really can leave using Logic 1st before going PC ...
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- KVRAF
- 2960 posts since 9 Dec, 2011 from falling
Cubase is a fantastic alternative to Logic.jacqueslacouth wrote: Any suggestions for a replacement for Logic???
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- KVRAF
- 7879 posts since 16 Apr, 2003 from -on the outside looking in
Fwiw, Logic is a great reason to stay Apple.
Failing that, I would try Cubase.
(I use FL Studio the most).
Failing that, I would try Cubase.
(I use FL Studio the most).
..what goes around comes around..
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- Banned
- 1373 posts since 5 May, 2007 from Finland
I've always wondered how anyone copes with all that sh*t with Apple/OSX. Especially software developers. I used to work on a 600mhz p3. Everything "just worked" with no problems at all. When I've then later jumped over to a faster quad AMD i can still use the same soundcards, midi ports and softsynths. And I'm on 64bit Win7 mind you.
Even changed from Cubase VST 5 to Cubase 5 haha
I really recommend taking a look at Cubase 7. It's a real joy to use. Also check out the classics like Synth1. Still works great. Same as the legendary Rebirth.
Even changed from Cubase VST 5 to Cubase 5 haha
I really recommend taking a look at Cubase 7. It's a real joy to use. Also check out the classics like Synth1. Still works great. Same as the legendary Rebirth.
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- KVRAF
- 7788 posts since 20 Jul, 2004 from Clearwater
It's a matter of opinion. I can't stand the way Windows functions. OS X is problem free over here.mkdr wrote:I've always wondered how anyone copes with all that sh*t with Apple/OSX. Especially software developers. I used to work on a 600mhz p3. Everything "just worked" with no problems at all. When I've then later jumped over to a faster quad AMD i can still use the same soundcards, midi ports and softsynths. And I'm on 64bit Win7 mind you.
Even changed from Cubase VST 5 to Cubase 5 haha
I really recommend taking a look at Cubase 7. It's a real joy to use. Also check out the classics like Synth1. Still works great. Same as the legendary Rebirth.
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jacqueslacouth jacqueslacouth https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=48379
- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 1149 posts since 18 Nov, 2004
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- KVRAF
- 2289 posts since 2 Jul, 2007
I have cubase 7 for sale right now in marketplace, but personally, I'd try out Studio One first. 
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- KVRAF
- 2686 posts since 5 Feb, 2004 from Nevada City, California
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- KVRAF
- 2158 posts since 11 Oct, 2007 from Almanya
Just be brave and switch to Reaper.
Once you're used to it, you'll (very probably) never look back.
And should you decide that you do want a new Apple after all, you can always take your projects with you, as Reaper will work on anything from a x64 Win8 machine to a PPC Mac from decades ago.
Regarding your whole Apple experience, I can only say: tough luck.
I still use the Apple aluminium keyboard I used 4 years ago, first had it plugged into my Win PC, then my Mac when I finally got one - no problems ever.
Can't count the times I spilled tea, coffee, water, beer or other sticky drinks over it - just tip it on the side and let it dry.
Still works like a charm.
Also, I don't know what your iMacs problem is/was.
But I switched from a Win7 PC with i7 4x 2.8GHz, 4GB RAM, GeForce GTX 460 and SATA2 SSD to a 2011 Mac Mini with i5 2x 2.5GHz, 8GB RAM, mobile ATI gfx chip and SATA3 SSD ... I could open an old Reaper project that took about 73% of my Win PCs performance, and it would just mildly bother the Mac at about 35% CPU usage.
I f*cked around with the Mini, I tore out the HDD and put in 2x SATA3 SSDs (which you're not supposed to), I put in more and faster RAM, and I even updated to Mountain Lion in the last weeks. It is connected to 2x 26.5" displays at 1920x1200, and I usually have the RAM hog called Firefox open at all times.
Honestly, the system is performant and responsive and fast and I have absolutely no clue what might be the cause for your problems. It's been like this for over 1.5 years now, there's been no performance loss yet whatsoever.
Maybe you have too many background services running, maybe you don't close the programs completely but just "hide" them, maybe you do too much at once or you just don't keep an eye on your system resources - I don't know, so I can only assume.
At this point, when looking at the P.O.S. that Win 8 has turned out to be, I would never dream of wasting my time on a Windows system ever again.
Should I choose to upgrade sometime, I'll definitely go for a Hackintosh.
With (the right!) normal cheap PC components, you can build a monster of a Mac Pro imitation for something between 400€ to 600€, and here in Germany it's even legal due to the ruling anti-OEM law. So no expensive Apple hardware, but the performance of OSX... lovely!
For now, and the last 1.5 years, I'm quite happy and comfortable with my small Mac Mini that by far out-performs my big fat Win7 i7 machine.
I even have my old G4 PPC PowerBook, that's also still running strong. Tore it apart a while ago, just to see what was going on inside, whether there's any use in tuning something, even that didn't kill it. Or all the beverages it met over time.
Not a lot of power, granted, so modern Flash-heavy websites and fullscreen YouTube videos can be a pain. But it's still my go-to machine for mobile recordings, because it's relatively light, it (for some reason) boots up in a matter of just a few seconds more than my Mini, and it will host Reaper and record 12 tracks of 24/44.1 WAV material with no problems.
Goes to show... experiences are not universal, so you shouldn't be so quick with your shots. Up until today I have yet to purchase one Apple device that fails me before its time is due.
Once you're used to it, you'll (very probably) never look back.
And should you decide that you do want a new Apple after all, you can always take your projects with you, as Reaper will work on anything from a x64 Win8 machine to a PPC Mac from decades ago.
Regarding your whole Apple experience, I can only say: tough luck.
I still use the Apple aluminium keyboard I used 4 years ago, first had it plugged into my Win PC, then my Mac when I finally got one - no problems ever.
Can't count the times I spilled tea, coffee, water, beer or other sticky drinks over it - just tip it on the side and let it dry.
Still works like a charm.
Also, I don't know what your iMacs problem is/was.
But I switched from a Win7 PC with i7 4x 2.8GHz, 4GB RAM, GeForce GTX 460 and SATA2 SSD to a 2011 Mac Mini with i5 2x 2.5GHz, 8GB RAM, mobile ATI gfx chip and SATA3 SSD ... I could open an old Reaper project that took about 73% of my Win PCs performance, and it would just mildly bother the Mac at about 35% CPU usage.
I f*cked around with the Mini, I tore out the HDD and put in 2x SATA3 SSDs (which you're not supposed to), I put in more and faster RAM, and I even updated to Mountain Lion in the last weeks. It is connected to 2x 26.5" displays at 1920x1200, and I usually have the RAM hog called Firefox open at all times.
Honestly, the system is performant and responsive and fast and I have absolutely no clue what might be the cause for your problems. It's been like this for over 1.5 years now, there's been no performance loss yet whatsoever.
Maybe you have too many background services running, maybe you don't close the programs completely but just "hide" them, maybe you do too much at once or you just don't keep an eye on your system resources - I don't know, so I can only assume.
At this point, when looking at the P.O.S. that Win 8 has turned out to be, I would never dream of wasting my time on a Windows system ever again.
Should I choose to upgrade sometime, I'll definitely go for a Hackintosh.
With (the right!) normal cheap PC components, you can build a monster of a Mac Pro imitation for something between 400€ to 600€, and here in Germany it's even legal due to the ruling anti-OEM law. So no expensive Apple hardware, but the performance of OSX... lovely!
For now, and the last 1.5 years, I'm quite happy and comfortable with my small Mac Mini that by far out-performs my big fat Win7 i7 machine.
I even have my old G4 PPC PowerBook, that's also still running strong. Tore it apart a while ago, just to see what was going on inside, whether there's any use in tuning something, even that didn't kill it. Or all the beverages it met over time.
Not a lot of power, granted, so modern Flash-heavy websites and fullscreen YouTube videos can be a pain. But it's still my go-to machine for mobile recordings, because it's relatively light, it (for some reason) boots up in a matter of just a few seconds more than my Mini, and it will host Reaper and record 12 tracks of 24/44.1 WAV material with no problems.
Goes to show... experiences are not universal, so you shouldn't be so quick with your shots. Up until today I have yet to purchase one Apple device that fails me before its time is due.
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jacqueslacouth jacqueslacouth https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=48379
- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 1149 posts since 18 Nov, 2004
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jacqueslacouth jacqueslacouth https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=48379
- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 1149 posts since 18 Nov, 2004
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- KVRAF
- 1769 posts since 30 Jul, 2007
Congrats! Apples suck. 
DAW: Go for Reaper
PC: Intel i7
Welcome back to the logical side of the computer world where computers aren't "cool" they are just useful.
(angry remarks... go!)
DAW: Go for Reaper
PC: Intel i7
Welcome back to the logical side of the computer world where computers aren't "cool" they are just useful.
(angry remarks... go!)
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- KVRAF
- 7879 posts since 16 Apr, 2003 from -on the outside looking in
The reaper is strong in this thread, but it simply isn't a replacement for Logic and all that Logic entails, unless you primarily just record instruments. It doesn't come with as many quality vst instruments/ effects or as easy midi/automation editing. (I also haven't tried the last couple of releases) So by all means, d/l the demo and use it, but would also check out Cubase or Studio One before I made the jump to be sure I could live with the whole pkg.
my 2p.
my 2p.
..what goes around comes around..