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jacqueslacouth jacqueslacouth https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=48379
- KVRian
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- 1149 posts since 18 Nov, 2004
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- KVRAF
- 11369 posts since 3 Feb, 2003 from Finland, Espoo
I very highly recommend that you take a serious look at Reaper. In the future, once it hits Linux big time, it'll be pretty much platform independent and you'll never have to switch your DAW any more, no matter what platform you are running.
There are some serious weaknesses to Reaper still but things are looking brighter now than ever. Once you set it up and learn some of the convenience functions (like hiding tracks from the mixer and track view that you don't need) you'll be wondering how on earth you didn't think of testing it sooner.
It's also dirt cheap unless you plan on making serious money with it.. even then it's dirt cheap.
The take/comp system and piano roll will feel ancient and annoying if you switch from Logic but even these are slowly being fixed and bettered.
A massive boon for Reaper is how efficient it is. If you are upgrading to the best PC components currently available you'll be able to run literally hundreds of plugins simultaneously (together with hundreds of tracks).. unless you run Nebula, then you're stuck with a couple of dozen.
Cheers!
bManic
There are some serious weaknesses to Reaper still but things are looking brighter now than ever. Once you set it up and learn some of the convenience functions (like hiding tracks from the mixer and track view that you don't need) you'll be wondering how on earth you didn't think of testing it sooner.
It's also dirt cheap unless you plan on making serious money with it.. even then it's dirt cheap.
The take/comp system and piano roll will feel ancient and annoying if you switch from Logic but even these are slowly being fixed and bettered.
A massive boon for Reaper is how efficient it is. If you are upgrading to the best PC components currently available you'll be able to run literally hundreds of plugins simultaneously (together with hundreds of tracks).. unless you run Nebula, then you're stuck with a couple of dozen.
Cheers!
bManic
"Wisdom is wisdom, regardless of the idiot who said it." -an idiot
"They don't ban hate speech; they ban speech they hate." -an oracle
"They don't ban hate speech; they ban speech they hate." -an oracle
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- KVRist
- 364 posts since 15 Aug, 2009
...then REAPER might not be a bad choice for you.jacqueslacouth wrote:Not too fussed by the included effects and instruments in Logic, I have a shed load of third party instruments/effects which although currently used as Audio Units, I think pretty much all of them are available as VSTs. I actually don't use the ones included in Logic much at all.
It doesn't come with a lot of bundled instruments, but at least it is stable and it leaves a small footprint.
I used to use REAPER (and Garageband) on a PPC G4 laptop. I still have the laptop just because I still have files on it that I want to keep (plus I wouldn't be able to sell it for a price worth the labor it would take to sell it).
I was able to move my Jam Pack and Garageband loops onto my Windows desktop computer and use them in REAPER with no problem, though I don't have an immediate way to know the tempo and key of the Apple Loops until I see/hear them in the media explorer.
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jacqueslacouth jacqueslacouth https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=48379
- KVRian
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- 1149 posts since 18 Nov, 2004
Silly Double Post
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jacqueslacouth jacqueslacouth https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=48379
- KVRian
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- 1149 posts since 18 Nov, 2004
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- KVRAF
- 4908 posts since 10 Aug, 2004 from Colorado Springs
And here I find my self getting drawn into the Apple vortex, not through their lappys, but iOS devices and the simply fun and musical things I can do with them.
The electromechanical keyboard instruments that come in Garageband for iOS are ridiculously good for the 5$ investment.
The predetermined section lengths in iOS Garageband remind me in a weird way of the sequencing I used to do on my Ensoniq ESQ-1 and VFX-SD axes way back in the day. That limitation made me actually think out my song structure ahead of time, and you know what, the limitation is actually disciplining me to be more intentional in my songwriting - like in the old days, when I would bang out the song ahead of time and when I had something that clicked together, press record for the section/sequence. And I have to plan out the playing because my input device is an Akai Synthstation 25 with 2 octaves of mini-keys. Don't like that, but it is helping me be disciplined with chord voicings.
My next music gear purchase that I'm saving up for is an iPad. I see Cubasis just got released for iPad so I'll probably do both Garageband and Cubasis and see which wins.
Now, Garageband for Mac OS - had my first go with it a few weeks back. No likey.
The electromechanical keyboard instruments that come in Garageband for iOS are ridiculously good for the 5$ investment.
The predetermined section lengths in iOS Garageband remind me in a weird way of the sequencing I used to do on my Ensoniq ESQ-1 and VFX-SD axes way back in the day. That limitation made me actually think out my song structure ahead of time, and you know what, the limitation is actually disciplining me to be more intentional in my songwriting - like in the old days, when I would bang out the song ahead of time and when I had something that clicked together, press record for the section/sequence. And I have to plan out the playing because my input device is an Akai Synthstation 25 with 2 octaves of mini-keys. Don't like that, but it is helping me be disciplined with chord voicings.
My next music gear purchase that I'm saving up for is an iPad. I see Cubasis just got released for iPad so I'll probably do both Garageband and Cubasis and see which wins.
Now, Garageband for Mac OS - had my first go with it a few weeks back. No likey.
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- KVRian
- 548 posts since 5 Feb, 2004
I used to work for Apple as one of their call-in support techs. Just thinking about that time seriously depresses me. If someone gave me one of their products now I'd give it away.
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- KVRist
- 331 posts since 4 Feb, 2012
I've used Logic (and Macs) for over 10 years and I'm also thinking of switching (but that's another story).
I use Reaper on a project with a buddy on his laptop and its a nightmare if you're used to Logic. My buddy uses Sonar and he thinks Reaper is a nightmare too. It's just not a complete and mature DAW. Maybe it will a few years from now. Let's not forget that Logic, Cubase, Motu Digital Performer (now available for Win) and Cakewalk (Sonar) we're developed over decades, you can't just replicate that overnight.
Or maybe I'm picky and prefer to pay more for a more complete package.
Bottom line: give Sonar a try, have you seen this?
http://www.cakewalk.com/products/sonar/touch.aspx
This alone is a good enough reason to switch
I use Reaper on a project with a buddy on his laptop and its a nightmare if you're used to Logic. My buddy uses Sonar and he thinks Reaper is a nightmare too. It's just not a complete and mature DAW. Maybe it will a few years from now. Let's not forget that Logic, Cubase, Motu Digital Performer (now available for Win) and Cakewalk (Sonar) we're developed over decades, you can't just replicate that overnight.
Or maybe I'm picky and prefer to pay more for a more complete package.
Bottom line: give Sonar a try, have you seen this?
http://www.cakewalk.com/products/sonar/touch.aspx
This alone is a good enough reason to switch
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- KVRAF
- 5109 posts since 5 May, 2005 from Stockholm, Sweden
I love my i5 PC, but I also love my recently acquired iPad. 
Now I find myself using the PC exclusively for music which was why I wanted an iPad in the first place. I can do all the other less important stuff from the comfort of my sofa instead of being hunched over a screen on the edge of my seat half the time.
Now I find myself using the PC exclusively for music which was why I wanted an iPad in the first place. I can do all the other less important stuff from the comfort of my sofa instead of being hunched over a screen on the edge of my seat half the time.
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- KVRAF
- 5109 posts since 5 May, 2005 from Stockholm, Sweden
Annoying orange truly is annoying, not in a funny haha way but in a 'I want to put my fist though the monitor' kind of way. I don't think this is the kind of annoying the creators had in mind.hibidy wrote:Goodbye apple? Hello pear?
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- KVRAF
- 2750 posts since 2 Feb, 2005 from Raincoast of Grayland
I got it! Actually, as annoyingly annoying it is to admit it - it was a perfect fit. But, I'm still annoyed.
Wish my annoying YouTube show got as many views. And Google would let me monetize it so I could buy more plugins to make more annoying videos. But, they won't. That's what I find really annoying.
Wish my annoying YouTube show got as many views. And Google would let me monetize it so I could buy more plugins to make more annoying videos. But, they won't. That's what I find really annoying.
perception: the stuff reality is made of.
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- KVRAF
- 42529 posts since 21 Dec, 2005
haha!
Well, some of the episodes are kinda funny and very clever (like the "wassuuuupppp" ) one. But yeah, after a while, it's just annoying. Wow, they rode the gravy train as mentioned though! Now, who does THAT remind me of......(strokes beard........)
Well, some of the episodes are kinda funny and very clever (like the "wassuuuupppp" ) one. But yeah, after a while, it's just annoying. Wow, they rode the gravy train as mentioned though! Now, who does THAT remind me of......(strokes beard........)