KVR Audio

bduffy · Post by **bduffy** » Wed Feb 20, 2013 11:49 pm

I sympathize with the trials and tribulations of running your own store, but I'm just curious: why not throw up the payware on Dropbox (or similar) and provide paid customers with the final downloads?

JJBiener · Post by **JJBiener** » Thu Feb 21, 2013 5:55 am

Steve, I am sorry for your troubles and I can more than sympathize. I would like to add my sense of loss at hearing that you will no longer be providing you innovative plugins. Good luck with your future endeavors. If you ever come back to the world of plugin development, you will be welcomed back with open arms.

Thanks,

JJ

bailees7irish · Post by **bailees7irish** » Thu Feb 21, 2013 6:33 am

bduffy wrote:I sympathize with the trials and tribulations of running your own store, but I'm just curious: why not throw up the payware on Dropbox (or similar) and provide paid customers with the final downloads?

+1

NAD · Post by **NAD** » Thu Feb 21, 2013 7:26 am

bailees7irish wrote:I still use Unstable semi-religiously. Good luck!

~Brendan

Shush! It's my secret weapon.

PurpleCatfishBettie · Thu Feb 21, 2013 10:30 am

dang, didn't get every de la mancha plug-in i wanted.

well, at least i've got some of them..

cheers!

(oh, believe it or not, there's 1 plug i've used on every track for the past 2 or 3 years - gts with the mojo cranked in my guitar signal chain. whether it was ever meant for that, idk... but i slap it in a guitar signal chain 'all the time'... usually with low ratio, threshold, and relaxed attack/decay... just enough to put some 'mojo' in there. that's not to mention sixty-five, dirty harry, qb3, the other gt-compressors, and basic_64, etc...)

spacedad · Post by **spacedad** » Thu Feb 21, 2013 11:06 am

sorry to hear about the website hell.
and i totally understand the 'realife/time' thing.
maybe someone could help with a shop so you could at least keep getting sales.?

you've surely given us a class collection.it will be sad to loose you.
all the best.

Numanoid · Post by **Numanoid** » Thu Feb 21, 2013 11:21 am

WOK wrote:And - for God's sake - do make backups of your things! (USB HDs aren't THAT expensive any more, you know...)

...or get a G-mail account, 10GB free storage in the clouds

I have bought Scylla earlier, and got some effects in a nice deal

De La Mancha had one of the most reasonably priced slicer plugs, weird that it wasn't a market for that.

What will happen to the earlier payware now, will it become freeware later?

bailees7irish · Post by **bailees7irish** » Thu Feb 21, 2013 11:30 am

Numanoid wrote: What will happen to the earlier payware now, will it become freeware later?

ObsoleteAcc99 · Post by **ObsoleteAcc99** » Thu Feb 21, 2013 1:56 pm

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WOK · Post by **WOK** » Thu Feb 21, 2013 2:22 pm

TheoM wrote:So what, you have the freeware files still, but totally unrelated to your main website, you didn't think to have backups of all your final payware installers on other backup media? I simply don't believe that.

He didn't say that. It may be just too much hastle to set up a shop again a handful of sales each month.

it is not cool to just not give some time frame for everyone to get up to date. You say nothing in any of your posts that even suggests you will help anyone who needs the installers in any way.
very uncool. You are alive and well and seem to have dismissed that a few customers might need downloads one more time, i mean now that they KNOW you are gone the customers will make multiple backups once they have what they need, as now they have that heads up..

They should have made backups after their purchase

If DlM can not access the database of his shop because even the backups are unusable without going thru days of redo customizations, updates etc., he can't tell who is a legal customer. And for the little revenue we small developers are getting I understand that he does not have time for this.
If you loose your ticket for the bus, the busdriver will not take you with it. Why he should give someone a free ride?
People complain about C/R protections that will actually be a problem when a company disappears, but they are even too lazy to make a copy of an unprotected, downloaded program? A CDr costs 10 cents.....
It's not DlM's problem if people not take care about their things. I must say this a little harsh because it's annoying to get mails "I had to reinstall my computer, can you send me again the the plugins I bought 2 years ago" or from my computer business "The password of my router and my internet account? I remember a paper, but I don't know were it's gone..."

george · Post by **george** » Thu Feb 21, 2013 3:00 pm

I feel sorry about the issue. Still I think setting up a shop using Share-it! is a matter of minutes http://www.mycommerce.com/share-it

ObsoleteAcc99 · Post by **ObsoleteAcc99** » Thu Feb 21, 2013 3:54 pm

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Panphobia · Post by **Panphobia** » Thu Feb 21, 2013 4:28 pm

sorry to see you go!

Mushy Mushy · Post by **Mushy Mushy** » Thu Feb 21, 2013 4:31 pm

Bye bye dlM

Ghostwave · Post by **Ghostwave** » Thu Feb 21, 2013 4:56 pm

TheoM wrote:... you should at least say something publicly to give people (like Ghostwave for example) who have lost their installers permission to get them from another user if you won't help them, ...

Theo,

I contacted Steve last night and he said he would send me the updated dll.
As to your question regarding freeware/payware, I think Steve still has everything. It's just the database that's screwed.

The difficulty with providing links to payware is that they are tied to user accounts and each customer has bought different plugins.

I have all the DLM plugins (20 FX and 10 instruments) and they total 1.26 GB, including all the audio files.

What Steve could do though, is to make all his payware available for free to any previous DLM customer, regardless of what they bought.
For the rest of the people, he could sell all the plugins as a bundle for a limited time.
I think that way, everyone would be happy and he would get some more money from his great work.
Just my 2 cents.

No more De La Mancha!