Alternatives to Neodymium?
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- KVRAF
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- 2830 posts since 2 Mar, 2003 from The only civilized county in Texas
Yeah, it still keeps on ticking. 10.8 is fine too. But given that there is no support I'm kinda anxious to have a backup.Spitfire31 wrote: Er… what Neodynium is capable of.
It runs just fine on my Snow Leopard 10.6.8!
Victor.
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- KVRAF
- 11386 posts since 3 Feb, 2003 from Finland, Espoo
edit: wrong thread.. duh. Stupid multiple tabs.
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- KVRist
- 154 posts since 24 Aug, 2012
I share your opinion about the "understanding" part. I _know_ how compressors work, but I don't immediately "see" it. With normal compressor interfaces, I'm like an autistic guy trying to understand facial expression. It's possible for an autistic guy to analyze the shape and lines of a face to understand the feelings, but it takes time. It's not immediate.VicDiesel wrote:Every time Apple upgrades its OS I'm delighted that my Elemental Audio plugs still work, and I fear the day that Neodymium will stop working because it's the only compressor I understand
I don't know if you saw the Radium Compressor thread, but the radium compressor has some of the same interface as neodynium , except that it only has one band (for now at least). With the radium compressor I've tried to make the understanding of compression immediate.
Hope this doesn't sound too pretentious. I'm mostly just plugging my software.
Radium Compressor thread: http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=374771
Radium Compressor: http://users.notam02.no/~kjetism/radium ... plugin.php
Radium Music Editor, a tracker-like DAW: https://users.notam02.no/~kjetism/radium/
Radium Compressor: https://users.notam02.no/~kjetism/radiu ... plugin.php
Radium Compressor: https://users.notam02.no/~kjetism/radiu ... plugin.php
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- KVRAF
- 2049 posts since 18 Sep, 2003 from Seattle USA
Yessir that's one reason why I picked up Radium - bring on the band updates!kmatheussen wrote:... the Radium Compressor thread, but the radium compressor has some of the same interface as neodynium , except that it only has one band (for now at least).
Radium Compressor: http://users.notam02.no/~kjetism/radium ... plugin.php
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 2830 posts since 2 Mar, 2003 from The only civilized county in Texas
Exactly.kmatheussen wrote:With normal compressor interfaces, I'm like an autistic guy trying to understand facial expression. It's possible for an autistic guy to analyze the shape and lines of a face to understand the feelings, but it takes time. It's not immediate.
Thanks for the pointer to your Radium compressor. I hadn't seen the thread, and it definitely looks promising.
Just one remark: Neodynium goes more for primary colours in their main display, you go for coloured shades of grey. Theirs is much clearer to follow, though not as artsy-fartsy looking. Can you guess which one gets my vote?
Victor.
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- KVRist
- 154 posts since 24 Aug, 2012
The gradients do serve a purpose, and it's not for the looks. It's to see quickly where the volumes in the three vertical sliders corresponds.VicDiesel wrote: Just one remark: Neodynium goes more for primary colours in their main display, you go for coloured shades of grey. Theirs is much clearer to follow, though not as artsy-fartsy looking. Can you guess which one gets my vote?
Victor.
However, if you have several dynamic bands, like Neodynium, this type of coloring could probably be a bit messy. At least each band must have it's own distinct color, and then there could be a tiny bit of gradient colors within each band, but not too much.
I would think that the designers of Neodynium actually thought about this, but perhaps it made the graphics less snappy on the computers of that time. Just speculating.
No, studying the screenshot of Neodynium, I see that gradients are not necessary. The bands themselves show this information quite well already, and in addition, each band has a middle line.
EDIT: It doesn't seem like Neodynium has metering in these areas either, and that makes it less important to show this information in an immediate way. By the way, I would really like to try this plugin, or one of it's descendants, like d4, but I can't find a demo anywhere...
Radium Music Editor, a tracker-like DAW: https://users.notam02.no/~kjetism/radium/
Radium Compressor: https://users.notam02.no/~kjetism/radiu ... plugin.php
Radium Compressor: https://users.notam02.no/~kjetism/radiu ... plugin.php
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- KVRist
- 85 posts since 19 Jul, 2004
anybody tried Flux's Alchemist?
http://www.fluxhome.com/products/plug_ins/alchemist
I love Neodynium too!
RR
http://www.fluxhome.com/products/plug_ins/alchemist
I love Neodynium too!
RR
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- KVRAF
- 12498 posts since 16 Aug, 2006
Still none that I know of but I would be very interested in one. The way it presented the different volume ranges as bands allowing for different compression ranges on each was very unique. A compressor that can also do upwards compression and upwards/downwards expansion could be run in serial with different thresholds but Neodynium did it all in one interface with the stacked thresholds. I feel BlueCat would be a great developer to build this.
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- KVRAF
- 4329 posts since 26 Jun, 2004
Yea it is sort of weird that there has been no remake of this since all these years.
This thing is one of a kind, and useful, and gone.
This thing is one of a kind, and useful, and gone.
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- KVRian
- 722 posts since 23 Jun, 2004
FWIW it still works for me using 32Lives in Mac Mojave OS as do the others (the RN versions). It is too bad that no one came out with a plugin that did what it did. It really was special and unique.