KVR Audio

Rajah · Post by **Rajah** » Mon Feb 11, 2013 4:32 pm

Karmacomposer wrote:
On the Aspire|M, with as much battery life, more hard drive space, more memory (6gb), better and larger touch screen, awesome keyboard, great I/O (and you can attach hard drives, thumb sticks, etc), full card reader (SD, MMC, etc) and cheaper price point make it the clear winner.

I have already used Presonus Studio One Pro on it and mixing on the full-size faders with my fingers is sheer joy. Likewise, playing around with synths like Alchemy and my own SuperCore v2 is just too much fun using the touch screen.

Mike

Thanks...

Seems all ACER has to do now, is have the screen rotate and lock at a 360 degree angle.. That will make it the perfect tablet..

VariKusBrainZ · Post by **VariKusBrainZ** » Mon Feb 11, 2013 5:15 pm

Wormhelmet wrote: Pretty easy to avoid cat pianos, just don't buy it. How many bullshit programs for windows are there? Far outnumber apple apps.

yes, sorry dude.
I get sick of hearing Apples pocket products, that have been around for a while, being compared with higher end devices that have just appeared on the market with a differnet target market.
Or users forgetting that there werent instantly millions of apps available when the first Apple touch device was released.

Apple products are largely aimed at the computer illiterate masses.

However, I wouldnt buy one of M$ overpriced bricks, just as I wouldnt buy a crApple Fisher Price device

olikana · Post by **olikana** » Tue Feb 12, 2013 9:11 am

Karmacomposer wrote:d
I have already used Presonus Studio One Pro on it and mixing on the full-size faders with my fingers is sheer joy. Likewise, playing around with synths like Alchemy and my own SuperCore v2 is just too much fun using the touch screen.

prosonus daw- too bad moving the volume faders is probably all u can do now...everything else i bet still requires keyboard mouse control.
softsynths - how are u using fine tune control on knobs ( which is usually setup to shift+drag) without touching the keyboard?

Karmacomposer · Post by **Karmacomposer** » Tue Feb 12, 2013 9:40 pm

olikana wrote:
Karmacomposer wrote:d
I have already used Presonus Studio One Pro on it and mixing on the full-size faders with my fingers is sheer joy. Likewise, playing around with synths like Alchemy and my own SuperCore v2 is just too much fun using the touch screen.

prosonus daw- too bad moving the volume faders is probably all u can do now...everything else i bet still requires keyboard mouse control.
softsynths - how are u using fine tune control on knobs ( which is usually setup to shift+drag) without touching the keyboard?

Although I will always use a physical keyboard and mouse for some things, I am discovering cool ways to use the touch screen. As far as knobs and small buttons, don't forget you can pinch zoom on those and make them massively large, then twist and press away.

Mike

olikana · Post by **olikana** » Wed Feb 13, 2013 3:46 am

Karmacomposer wrote:
olikana wrote:
Karmacomposer wrote:d
I have already used Presonus Studio One Pro on it and mixing on the full-size faders with my fingers is sheer joy. Likewise, playing around with synths like Alchemy and my own SuperCore v2 is just too much fun using the touch screen.

prosonus daw- too bad moving the volume faders is probably all u can do now...everything else i bet still requires keyboard mouse control.
softsynths - how are u using fine tune control on knobs ( which is usually setup to shift+drag) without touching the keyboard?
Although I will always use a physical keyboard and mouse for some things, I am discovering cool ways to use the touch screen. As far as knobs and small buttons, don't forget you can pinch zoom on those and make them massively large, then twist and press away.

Mike

yes but the problem is no matter how big u make the knobs their resolution for control will still be set to its default increments....which is ok till u need to fine tune a value (which u will need at some point)
or is there a way in windows8touch to implement shift,ctrl,and alt + click in doable touch gestures?
old windows tablets had hotkey buttons at the side of the screen for this purpose....maybe they should have kept them..cos all windows software still relies on them.
some synths have right click drag for fine tuning(xhip for example)....so those might be easily used....but most rely on the dreaded shift key.

Ingonator · Post by **Ingonator** » Sat Mar 09, 2013 11:20 am

This week i visited the CeBit in Hannover (my home town) and checked the new Surface Pro tablet from Microsoft. This got a real Windows 8 OS and an Intel i5
CPU. Built-in Flash memory is up to 128 GB.

This seems to be a way to use a tablet computer for audio software. No "apps" needed as Surface Pro could run standard software.
Should be possible to use a standard USB audio interface with it.

Another nice feature is the additional thin keyboard that could be also used as a cover for the screen.
The Surface Pro seems to be a mix of a tablet and an "Ultrabook", especially when the keyboard is connected.

The introduction price will be a bit high maybe (no details for Germany so far) but i'm sure it will drop soon.
In stores here in Germany only the Surface with Windows RT is available so far:
http://www.saturn.de/webapp/wcs/stores/ ... ry=Surface

There is also another kind of keyboard with a "mechanical" keyboard which is 10 euros more expensive than the others.

Ingo

mbncp · Post by **mbncp** » Sun Jun 02, 2013 2:48 pm

Anyone running vst plugs on these win8 tablets ?

My idea would be to run a single vsti synth with 1-2 fx.

benjamind · Post by **benjamind** » Sat Jun 15, 2013 11:02 pm

What we really need is 10-point multi-touch force-sensing tablet.

This would likely eliminate any need to buy a MIDI controller then, because the force-sensing (if the resolution is high enough, 0-127 would be good enough for MIDI) would replace those pesky velocity sensitive keyboards, and polyphonic aftertouch would be a cinch to pull off. Faders and encoders/joggers would be easy too since it's already possible, look at Lemur on the iPad. Throw in force sensing, and maybe a more optimized wireless latency, and you have just made a shitload of MIDI controllers obsolete.

Will it happen? I doubt it, but Apple could implement force-sensing by a variety of means which already exist. You have several companies working on completely transparent force-sensing panels which produce 7 (128), 8 (256) ,9 (512), or even 10-bit (1024 values) output and ON ALL TEN FINGERS INDEPENDENTLY.

mkdr · Post by **mkdr** » Mon Jun 17, 2013 11:15 pm

We have a Win8 laptop at work with a quad i7 and a touchscreen. My iPad4 is a joke compared to it. It's a monster, with heaps of ram and a 256gig dual raid ssd built in. iPad4 with half the storage space, quarter of the memory and maybe ten percent of the processing power is 930 euros. The laptop was 999 euros.
Toys are toys. Real machines are real machines.

Tactile control is very different than touchscreens. I'd take a keyboard controller over a touchscreen anyday. It's even silly to compare those.

Midi controllers haven't been obsolete even though cheap(50-90e) multi-touch pressure sensitive drawing surfaces are readily available.
Here's a cheap one with 1024 pressure levels

fmr · Post by **fmr** » Mon Jun 17, 2013 11:24 pm

mkdr wrote:We have a Win8 laptop at work with a quad i7 and a touchscreen. My iPad4 is a joke compared to it. It's a monster, with heaps of ram and a 256gig dual raid ssd built in. iPad4 with half the storage space, quarter of the memory and maybe ten percent of the processing power is 930 euros. The laptop was 999 euros.
Toys are toys. Real machines are real machines.

Definitely agree, and the laptop you described seems like a dream machine. Which size is the screen? The price (999 euros) seems ridiculously cheap for something with those specs.

mkdr · Post by **mkdr** » Tue Jun 18, 2013 9:14 am

fmr wrote:
mkdr wrote:We have a Win8 laptop at work with a quad i7 and a touchscreen. My iPad4 is a joke compared to it. It's a monster, with heaps of ram and a 256gig dual raid ssd built in. iPad4 with half the storage space, quarter of the memory and maybe ten percent of the processing power is 930 euros. The laptop was 999 euros.
Toys are toys. Real machines are real machines.
Definitely agree, and the laptop you described seems like a dream machine. Which size is the screen? The price (999 euros) seems ridiculously cheap for something with those specs.

It's an Acer Aspire S7 Ultrabook 11.6", full HD
Intel Core i7-3537U 2.0 GHz, 4Gb Ram
Weight 1,04kg

Kalamata Kid · Post by **Kalamata Kid** » Tue Jun 18, 2013 4:56 pm

My opinion is that the windows 7/8 and Surface Pro is the best solution for touch screen midi music making. Not sure why it has been over looked.

Being a studio musician I would like to have a 30" or 40" Windows 7, 10 touch-screen to operate my DAW and VST and to play the midi controller. But unfortunately the developers do not see it that way.

See:windowsRT/winphone8/windows8 mobile appshttp://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=5282279#5282279

Dreaming of a multi-function midi keyboard controller APP for any Touch-Screen.
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... highlight=

List of Audio and Midi Apps for Windows 7 and/or 8
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 07#5254007

Wacom and Slate where are you?

Kalamata Kid · Post by **Kalamata Kid** » Tue Jun 18, 2013 7:40 pm

Question:

Can Surface Pro apps also be opened in a Windows 7 or 8 PC or they will only run in Surface Pro?

Kalamata Kid · Post by **Kalamata Kid** » Wed Jun 19, 2013 1:52 pm

Kalamata Kid wrote:Question:

Can Surface Pro apps also be opened in a Windows 7 or 8 PC or they will only run in Surface Pro?

Apparently the Question was to dumb for anyone to answer. I do not own any tablet so that is why I am asking a dumb question.

BMoore · Post by **BMoore** » Wed Jun 19, 2013 2:15 pm

mkdr wrote:
fmr wrote:
mkdr wrote:We have a Win8 laptop at work with a quad i7 and a touchscreen. My iPad4 is a joke compared to it. It's a monster, with heaps of ram and a 256gig dual raid ssd built in. iPad4 with half the storage space, quarter of the memory and maybe ten percent of the processing power is 930 euros. The laptop was 999 euros.
Toys are toys. Real machines are real machines.
Definitely agree, and the laptop you described seems like a dream machine. Which size is the screen? The price (999 euros) seems ridiculously cheap for something with those specs.
It's an Acer Aspire S7 Ultrabook 11.6", full HD
Intel Core i7-3537U 2.0 GHz, 4Gb Ram
Weight 1,04kg

Is this a custom made one?
I can't find an Aspire S7 with those specs. Not the 11", and not at that price.

Surface Pro was presented physically at CES. Comments, anyone?