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robogone · Post by **robogone** » Mon Mar 11, 2013 9:37 pm

atraf11 wrote:1. understand the concept perfectly. your assuming every one in the thread is a potential customer, and not random people just trying to show their superiority by dismissing a product before acutally experiencing it

Yes I am making that assumption - this is a music forum so why not assume that everyone is a potential customer for the software being discussed? Why would those who have no interest be "random people just trying to show their superiority"? I have no clue where you got that one from.

atraf11 wrote:i dont think you understand the concept of "demos" too well

OK then, so can you provide a link to the demos so that anyone who is a naysayer can demo them today in place of reading the description?

vurt · Post by **vurt** » Mon Mar 11, 2013 9:38 pm

the whole "one synth to rule them all"
its just advertising slogans, it is called "monark"
monarchs rule.
dont think it was meant to be taken as literal?
was it?

although, im not ovrly excited by it
ill keep an eye out for its bastard off spring in the ul though, maybe will inspire some new works with some of the stuff inside?

atraf11 · Post by **atraf11** » Mon Mar 11, 2013 9:39 pm

btw did anyone recently order anything for the NI shop? do they add and tax or anything or is the 149$ price of the upgrade the final price?

vurt · Post by **vurt** » Mon Mar 11, 2013 9:41 pm

atraf11 wrote:
hakey wrote:
atraf11 wrote:i dont think you understand the concept of "demos" too well
You think there'll be a demo... for a Reaktor ensemble?
legally? idk, but does that really matter?

i think it is you who misunderstands the concept of "demo" here...

ENV1 · Post by **ENV1** » Mon Mar 11, 2013 9:41 pm

pdxindy wrote:
But for sheer sound capability and grandeur (royalty), it is the Moog Modular.

Dont forget the ARP 2500

That was a pretty mean bugger too.

hibidy · Post by **hibidy** » Mon Mar 11, 2013 9:42 pm

atraf11 wrote:
hakey wrote:
atraf11 wrote:i dont think you understand the concept of "demos" too well
You think there'll be a demo... for a Reaktor ensemble?
legally? idk, but does that really matter?

Are you for real?

@demo: There isn't one for razor, so I would be surprised if there was one for this. As stated, I was not pleased with how razor performed (which is mostly a reaktor thing) on my machine.

Anyways, it's moot now for me because it's included in the K9 update and I'll have anyways (149 for an updated battery, mix series is a really good deal so I'll have this too regardless of how it performs)

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Mon Mar 11, 2013 9:42 pm

vurt wrote:the whole "one synth to rule them all"
its just advertising slogans, it is called "monark"
monarchs rule.
dont think it was meant to be taken as literal?
was it?

I wonder why marketing slogans are taken so seriously anyway. If it was for those slogans, everyone would live in premium houses, eat premium food and wear premium clothes...

atraf11 · Post by **atraf11** » Mon Mar 11, 2013 9:42 pm

robojam wrote:
atraf11 wrote:1. understand the concept perfectly. your assuming every one in the thread is a potential customer, and not random people just trying to show their superiority by dismissing a product before acutally experiencing it
Yes I am making that assumption - this is a music forum so why not assume that everyone is a potential customer for the software being discussed? Why would those who have no interest be "random people just trying to show their superiority"? I have no clue where you got that one from.

atraf11 wrote:i dont think you understand the concept of "demos" too well
OK then, so can you provide a link to the demos so that anyone who is a naysayer can demo them today in place of reading the description?

why would you assume that? this thread and the people participating in it arent talking about buying or being in the market for a new synth - if you look at most of the posts its just projection and wish-fulfillment... people see somethign shiny and with a line like one synth blah blah they visualizing their perfect synth.. much like people are doing with bitwig. hype buyers dont mean product buyers

now how could i do that? the products not even out, silly!

atraf11 · Post by **atraf11** » Mon Mar 11, 2013 9:44 pm

vurt wrote:
atraf11 wrote:
hakey wrote:
atraf11 wrote:i dont think you understand the concept of "demos" too well
You think there'll be a demo... for a Reaktor ensemble?
legally? idk, but does that really matter?
i think it is you who misunderstands the concept of "demo" here...

demo = demonstration. there is no connotation of where that demonstration came from. go ahead and get all morally superior on me, youre all still wrong

atraf11 · Post by **atraf11** » Mon Mar 11, 2013 9:44 pm

chk071 wrote:
vurt wrote:the whole "one synth to rule them all"
its just advertising slogans, it is called "monark"
monarchs rule.
dont think it was meant to be taken as literal?
was it?
I wonder why marketing slogans are taken so seriously anyway. If it was for those slogans, everyone would live in premium houses, eat premium food and wear premium clothes...

yes! thank you!

hibidy · Post by **hibidy** » Mon Mar 11, 2013 9:44 pm

chk071 wrote:
vurt wrote:the whole "one synth to rule them all"
its just advertising slogans, it is called "monark"
monarchs rule.
dont think it was meant to be taken as literal?
was it?
I wonder why marketing slogans are taken so seriously anyway. If it was for those slogans, everyone would live in premium houses, eat premium food and wear premium clothes...

It's not any different with commercials for soap, shamwow, perfume or beer.

vurt · Post by **vurt** » Mon Mar 11, 2013 9:44 pm

ENV1 wrote:
pdxindy wrote:
But for sheer sound capability and grandeur (royalty), it is the Moog Modular.
Dont forget the ARP 2500

That was a pretty mean bugger too.

tonto.
the king of all synths ever!
couldnt wear a crown though, with his condition...

highkoo · Post by **highkoo** » Mon Mar 11, 2013 9:45 pm

atraf11 wrote:
chk071 wrote:
vurt wrote:the whole "one synth to rule them all"
its just advertising slogans, it is called "monark"
monarchs rule.
dont think it was meant to be taken as literal?
was it?
I wonder why marketing slogans are taken so seriously anyway. If it was for those slogans, everyone would live in premium houses, eat premium food and wear premium clothes...
yes! thank you!

What are you on?

The slogan existed before the name of it was known, and everyone is potentially a customer for the 'one synth' that 'rules them all'.

The product we are being shown here is not that, at a glance, demo or not.

Im sure it is a fine synth.
It does not 'end' anything.
Well, maybe. Hopefully. It will be the end of thinking about thirty years ago...

vurt · Post by **vurt** » Mon Mar 11, 2013 9:46 pm

atraf11 wrote:
vurt wrote:
atraf11 wrote:
hakey wrote:
atraf11 wrote:i dont think you understand the concept of "demos" too well
You think there'll be a demo... for a Reaktor ensemble?
legally? idk, but does that really matter?
i think it is you who misunderstands the concept of "demo" here...
demo = demonstration. there is no connotation of where that demonstration came from. go ahead and get all morally superior on me, youre all still wrong

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robogone · Post by **robogone** » Mon Mar 11, 2013 9:48 pm

atraf11 wrote:
robojam wrote:OK then, so can you provide a link to the demos so that anyone who is a naysayer can demo them today in place of reading the description?
now how could i do that? the products not even out, silly!

Exactly - so it kind of makes your earlier rant pretty pointless:

atraf11 wrote:use the shit before talking shit jesus christ

atraf11 wrote:demo = demonstration. there is no connotation of where that demonstration came from. go ahead and get all morally superior on me, youre all still wrong

The connotation is usually that the manufacturer of the software will provide it. Which they haven't yet.

No one's getting morally superior, just pointing out the illogicalities of your anger.

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