KVR Audio

DaveGamble · Post by **DaveGamble** » Thu Mar 28, 2013 11:37 am

sunny_j, found the issue.

It's specific to saving presets in the "Presets" root folder. The system expects presets to be in subfolders, and the root folder is handled differently ('cause it's overlaid onto the list that the host can see). Lemme see what I can do about it.

Dave.

xamido · Post by **xamido** » Thu Mar 28, 2013 11:42 am

Question, do you design equilibrium to use lesser cpu than equality? I've been thinking of getting it to replace equality, i don't know why equality is a bit of a cpu hog when it's automated in S1.

DaveGamble · Post by **DaveGamble** » Thu Mar 28, 2013 11:57 am

xamido wrote:Question, do you design equilibrium to use lesser cpu than equality? I've been thinking of getting it to replace equality, i don't know why equality is a bit of a cpu hog when it's automated in S1.

What mode are you using EQuality in?
You might find that reducing the FFT recalculation throttle (Setup->Prefs) improves things if you're using a "Phase" mode.

As a rule, EQuality CPU usage is about as low as can be in Digital mode; though automation will push that up (since the coefficients need to be recalculated, and generating coefficients as good as the EQuality ones takes some cycles and some maths).

This said, in EQuilibrium I've been specifically working on making the coefficient recalculation faster as much of the time as possible (only "as much of the time" because "and better" is a design target too - and I've always worked it to give "better" rather than "faster" results. Across all instances in the world, ballpark of 99% are not automated, so the aim for me has to be FAST to process, and AWESOME coefficients; but I +have+ been trying to shrink the last 1% for calculation time too... it's a secondary goal, rather than a primary goal).

Dave.

filter303 · Post by **filter303** » Thu Mar 28, 2013 12:38 pm

After experimenting with Equilibrium for a while I can safely say that my favorite combination for mixing is:

bessel filters
Ox4 peaks
550 low shelf
110 high shelf

For some reason I expected to like the pultec low shelf the most

I still need to find out what I am going to use on the masterbus.

@Dave: Equilibrium crashed Reaper4 today when I switched eq type from hpf tilt to 550 peak.
I already sent you a crash report. If you need more details let me know.

xamido · Post by **xamido** » Thu Mar 28, 2013 12:53 pm

Hmm, okay. I've been demoing equilibrium and so far i like it. Will try it out until the demo times out, hopefully i'll get it.

Tp3 · Post by **Tp3** » Thu Mar 28, 2013 1:19 pm

When one sets filter type, how can he know (afterwards) what did he choose ? there is no indication...

Krzysztof Oktalski · Post by **Krzysztof Oktalski** » Thu Mar 28, 2013 1:22 pm

antithesist wrote:I'm OK with not changing the GUI on the fly, but I would really like to quickly audition different settings on the DSP page

This is exactly why the current implementation was decided upon. It means that you've got a way of doing this without more buttons, and you can specify what is being affected, instead of arbitrary imposition of GUI elements. To add more buttons is to lose something else, obviously the Tiny GUI mode would be the same size as the Small if we added 2 more clutterbar buttons. To another contingent this will be a great loss (laptop users), what you might sacrifice may well be unacceptable to the next user (it would make it very hard to use on our lowest spec laptop).

I'm 4 months in from the first build I installed; I've got a single folder with all the presets I want in, which means I can customise the GUI, DSP or EQ to how I want in 3 (2 if you're really organised) clicks, obviously there's no button only method that would allow that kind of speed, so additional buttons would slow workflow for all but single element changes. These buttons couldn't be like the EQuality ones, because there's so many more elements to deal with - they'd all require submenus, at which point it becomes no faster than the current method, but with the drawbacks previously outlined. As such, the current implementation is slower to use in the first instance, but much faster once you've configured it appropriately.

There's other considerations too, at the moment the selective loads are analogous to information that's all in the same order in the Setup pane; once you start to scatter these concepts it will take users longer to understand how these things relate and creates a new information design problem.

You're all in the first few days of usage; it may feel different in a week, and different again in a month. These requests generally don't get repeated once a user has their feet under the table and has made the desired presets in a single default bank. Hopefully, in time it'll become apparent why we've made the decisions we have, but be assured that we discussed these details over and over again and we're constantly listening.

bishop666 · Post by **bishop666** » Thu Mar 28, 2013 1:22 pm

Tp3 wrote:When one sets filter type, how can he know (afterwards) what did he chose ? there is no indication...

setup -> gui

Krzysztof Oktalski · Post by **Krzysztof Oktalski** » Thu Mar 28, 2013 1:30 pm

Tp3 wrote:When one sets filter type, how can he know (afterwards) what did he chose ? there is no indication...

I assume you mean subtypes; filter types are either literal curves or the buttons at the top of bandstrips - sounds like you've got some elements turned off. To turn it on for the graph, go to Setup->GUI->Analyser->Tooltips For Subtype->On, and maybe the next setting to "Flat". To turn it on for the bandstrips, Setup->GUI->Bandstrips->Subtype->Show.

Tp3 · Post by **Tp3** » Thu Mar 28, 2013 1:33 pm

bishop666 wrote:
Tp3 wrote:When one sets filter type, how can he know (afterwards) what did he chose ? there is no indication...
setup -> gui

Thanks, fella

I DID read the manual, but I guess one cannot avoid passing the "small letters" (pun intended

)...

I do think, however, that it should be turned ON by default. just my 0.02...

Krzysztof Oktalski · Post by **Krzysztof Oktalski** » Thu Mar 28, 2013 4:08 pm

Tp3 wrote: I do think, however, that it should be turned ON by default. just my 0.02...

It is, although it can be turned off by the penultimate screen of the setup wizard.

Krzysztof Oktalski · Post by **Krzysztof Oktalski** » Thu Mar 28, 2013 4:19 pm

Does anyone know how to announce things on the KVR front page? I don't think Equilibrium has been on there yet.

djscorb · Post by **djscorb** » Thu Mar 28, 2013 4:27 pm

Hi Krzys

I think it's under the 'more' subheading: submit news, plugins and hosts

http://www.kvraudio.com/submissions.php

djanthonyw · Post by **djanthonyw** » Thu Mar 28, 2013 4:40 pm

I just realized that the presets now show up immediately in the browser when saved. Thank you for including this in the first update!

sunny_j · Post by **sunny_j** » Thu Mar 28, 2013 5:04 pm

DaveGamble wrote:sunny_j, found the issue.

It's specific to saving presets in the "Presets" root folder. The system expects presets to be in subfolders, and the root folder is handled differently ('cause it's overlaid onto the list that the host can see). Lemme see what I can do about it.

Dave.

Hopefully the preset disappearance is also connected to this issue and will also get fixed. Thanks Dave

Regards,

DMG EQuilibrium