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djanthonyw wrote:Yes, if anything, I think the parts that are lightest in color should be darker than the surrounding area instead of lighter.
or maybe as dark as...

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Urs wrote:And here's some delay-drenched live arpeggiator noodling in that configuration, changing some waveforms and filter modulation:

http://www.u-he.com/music/arp_noodle.mp3

Enjoy,

Urs
Great, that's 'instant WeiberElektro', or 'future pop', as they say in the UK :)
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zvenx wrote:
djanthonyw wrote:Yes, if anything, I think the parts that are lightest in color should be darker than the surrounding area instead of lighter.
or maybe as dark as...

rsp
Once there is a settled version, I think I will make it brightly colored :)

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OK, the release seem to be somewhere in May... that means.... public beta might hit us right after Messe??! :hyper:

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Quick question:

The Multimode filter is notoriously high on CPU while the Bite and Cascade are relatively "lite".

How does the new Uhbie filter compare in that respect?

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3ee wrote:Quick question:

The Multimode filter is notoriously high on CPU while the Bite and Cascade are relatively "lite".

How does the new Uhbie filter compare in that respect?
The multimode filter in 24dBHP/LP and 12dB BP is 2 cascaded 12-pole filters. Thus it takes twice the CPU of a single filter, such as the 12dB LP. The Uhbie should be almost exactly as expensive as the multimode's 12dB lowpass. I reckon it'll be the least cpu draining of the lot, but I haven't benchmarked yet.

To recollect, we found the sound of the SEM/OB-X filter to be almost identical to the 2-pole Jupiter6 one, without the gain compensation for the resonance and a slightly different saturation. So what we did was, we exaggerated the difference a tad. The Uhbie is pretty much on the colourful side of its kind, in a good way 8)

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3ee wrote:OK, the release seem to be somewhere in May... that means.... public beta might hit us right after Messe??! :hyper:
You might need to be more patient... I don't think we have a chance to release before June... :oops:

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zvenx wrote:
djanthonyw wrote:Yes, if anything, I think the parts that are lightest in color should be darker than the surrounding area instead of lighter.
or maybe as dark as...

rsp
We'll see... this one uses photoshopped backgrounds, the final one will hopefully happen inside our ui framework.

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Loving DIVA's new modules GUI. What does the uhbie filter emulate?

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Kaboom75 wrote:Loving DIVA's new modules GUI. What does the uhbie filter emulate?
Oberheim 12db State Variable Filter.

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GruvSyco wrote:
Kaboom75 wrote:Loving DIVA's new modules GUI. What does the uhbie filter emulate?
Oberheim 12db State Variable Filter.
Thanks :shock: :love:

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Incredible! Diva seems better and better with every REV!

My poor processor will hate me... but I crave those full sounds even though I have two fine U-he products already. She's just so MEATY! I can hear the beef even on my tiny laptop speakers (it always stands out in my headphone mix too... makes even Maschine sound small). Maybe I can sell some of my old guitars?


And with this new oscillator to play with... my processor will just have to be brave. (perhaps bite the bullet and get a Mac Air i7 next month or two) :)

Oh, what about sequencer hand-offs to a DAW? I know you are working on this... do we have a longer wait?

My faith in U-he is constantly rewarded... thank you! :D
Retired, Bored and ready to WRECK the JOINT... gonna drop some OLD-STEP, ya'll!!

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With the new oscillator emulating a digital VA will this mean that DIVA uses less CPU with this Module on?

Has this Oscillator been improved over the original JP- 8xxx?

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Kaboom75 wrote:With the new oscillator emulating a digital VA will this mean that DIVA uses less CPU with this Module on?

Has this Oscillator been improved over the original JP- 8xxx?
No and yes.

We had to oversample drastically to counteract the aliasing. CPU usage also depends on waveform - the feedback one is monophonic in the original for a reason, and we believe it's the numerous waveshapers that need to be calculated per sample. The digital osc is expensive, but I think somewhere in the middle between the other osc modules. The oscillators are nearly neglectible in CPU usage if compared to the filters though.

There are a couple of improvements and also a couple of left-outs.

- the original does not have Supersaw, TriangleMod and Feedback waveforms on the second oscillator. We didn't care and made both oscillators have all waveforms.

- the original has a dedicated AR-envelope for the oscillator. We didn't do that, but we have plans for a one-shot mode in the LFOs, which may cover most of the applications

- the original uses the second wavefrom-control knob of some waveforms as a modulation depth control. We didn't do that, we added full modulation to both waveform controls, and we added extra controls to the second slot in this case. For instance, the "normal" triangle does a subtle phase modulation trick, and we put that into the TriangleMod as well instead of just LFO depth.

- the square/PWM waveform in Diva's approach has an extra function not available anywhere before, which is what does that big PWM and Sync-like sound from about 1:00 to 1:40 in the demo track. It's a bit of a modern take on those extra alpha Juno-waveforms, with a bit of Bazille Fractal Resonance thrown in.

- the current design lacks a second tune modulation knob - that's an oversight and will be fixed :oops:

It's plenty of stuff to explore 8)

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ive never posted on this board before only lurked for almost 10 years. but buying diva is the best soft synth move i have ever made and the options of the new oscillator are very very exciting.

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