Samplitude Pro X opinions

[mllange]

Outstanding feedback guys, thanks for the additional information so quickly!

[codec_spurt]

Well, seeing how some of you were raving about this little proggy, I had to check it out. Just the curiosity that killed the cat...

What a beast! So light on CPU (well lighter than I thought it would be and no worse but probably a bit better than my other hosts).

I won't go into the sound quality, as I have notoriously bad judgement in this area and I don't care about it anyway, so... but it sounds pretty damn fine to me.

The workflow is frightening. I just made Studio One my DAW of choice and I've raved on about that in previous posts, but Samplitude is probably the only one that could knock it off its perch. I can get stuff done so quickly in it (Samplitude) it is not true.

I have to get this program. Why aren't there more people raving wildly about it? The party is just about over for me now. I don't think I will ever be able to afford it. It's just that little bit too outside my price range. Maybe I could save up, get a special, I'll certainly be on the lookout.

This program just does so many things right. I love its audio implementation, I love its midi implementation. I haven't scratched the surface with object editing but I can see how that would save me a boat load of time and is the answer to the question I dared not even ask: Why can't I do this without it taking me half an hour and draining me of half a litre of glucose? Serious serious editing possibilities.


I'm gonna stop. Go back to my Studio One. But I know the grass is greener. I'd be more than happy with the basic version and could live without the suite, but we'll see. It's on my radar now, in a big way. I was going to save up for the full version of Ableton, and this is a bit more expensive, but it may be worth it.


Thanks a lot to Kraznet too for the amazingly informative and free tutorials. Everything I wanted to know was included somewhere in one of his vids. Just too good. I'm blown away.

If any of you want to rave on about this being the holy grail of DAWs then I'll only too well understand. I think you've been fairly reserved up until this point. Good to see Magix widening the field and trying to get it out to a few more people.

I'm in!


cheers.

[w1awb]

I agree. For me it's a perfect balance of features. Audio editing is killer and the midi is perfect for my work flow.

I tried it for a few days and just had to buy it. Fabulous program.

If you look around, there are some great deals now and then. I got the academic version because I'm a music teacher but I think there are crossgrades available somewhere. Maybe someone here can point you towards the best deal.

I just got the straight ProX no suite...the plugins that come with the non suite version are great and I've already got a bunch of vsts and vstis.

Buy it. You won't be sorry.

Andy B

Well, seeing how some of you were raving about this little proggy, I had to check it out. Just the curiosity that killed the cat...
If any of you want to rave on about this being the holy grail of DAWs then I'll only too well understand. I think you've been fairly reserved up until this point. Good to see Magix widening the field and trying to get it out to a few more people.

I'm in!


cheers.

[codec_spurt]

I agree. For me it's a perfect balance of features. Audio editing is killer and the midi is perfect for my work flow.

I tried it for a few days and just had to buy it. Fabulous program.

If you look around, there are some great deals now and then. I got the academic version because I'm a music teacher but I think there are crossgrades available somewhere. Maybe someone here can point you towards the best deal.

Thanks. I like it. A lot. But I'm not sure I'm ready to part with any of my current software. There isn't anything I have that I don't use, from Fruity Loops to EnergyXT to Studio One. They each do something better than the competition.

I'll probably just save up and wait for a deal. For the money what you get is insane, such high quality plugins. I really need to get this at some point. And the full suite would just be a dream. Sascha Eversmeier is such an exceptional developer. But the whole package is just exceptional on the whole. In fact, it was the midi implementation that sold me.

I have about 3 days left or so on the demo, but I think I'll just leave it for now.




This is definitely one to look forward to for the future though. Just glad I found out about it.




cheers.

[Hink]

codec_spurt, I dont think I've been reserved about it all but the truth is haters and fanbois for other DAWs kind of make me cautious*. I agree with everything you said but before long someone will come along and tell you how heir DAW of choice kills the rest of the DAWs...it gets old and as long as I am happy why should I frustrate myself with the same people on the same old, same old?

*there seems to be a fine line between liking a DAW and being a fanboi, that line also appears to be different for every host...in fact it doesn't even exist for some hosts while others you're a fanboi if you even suggest you like it

[codec_spurt]

codec_spurt, I dont think I've been reserved about it all but the truth is haters and fanbois for other DAWs kind of make me cautious*. I agree with everything you said but before long someone will come along and tell you how heir DAW of choice kills the rest of the DAWs...it gets old and as long as I am happy why should I frustrate myself with the same people on the same old, same old?

*there seems to be a fine line between liking a DAW and being a fanboi, that line also appears to be different for every host...in fact it doesn't even exist for some hosts while others you're a fanboi if you even suggest you like it

I hear you. I guess that there is safety in numbers. Cubase costs enough and has enough advocates for them to put up a good fight. Same with Logic, etc. etc.

I really don't want to get into the 'sounds better debate'. I could give my reasons, but if I did, I would be getting into the debate. For me, there is no debate. Samplitude cuts the mustard. That's enough for me, I don't care if it cuts the mustard more. I've been quite vocal about this in other threads on the subject, so won't repeat myself here.

What I loved about Samplitude was its workflow. From it only taking a few seconds to open up and having a 1/2 click of the mouse to render a file. Jesus, in Ableton, I feel like I am writing a book, Studio One too. Still no incremental file save a la FLStudio, but even though Samplitude doesn't have this, it doesn't hinder you either when you're just knocking off a quick one.

The others do. This is where EnergyXT2 excels for me. I can render a loop from a project in under a second with shortcuts. Studio One is in fact a bit of a nightmare. The devs don't listen. I'm finding the support to be very poor compared to others. I don't believe they will ever implement an incremental file save. You find it in graphics programs, 3D stuff in particular. Just doesn't exist in the audio world apart from FLStudio. Maybe Cubase had it in an old version, but I think they got rid of it...


Anyway, on the whole it all added up. A very quick, stable and FUN experience. Logical, unlike Logic which is totally illogical. And I know it has a whole lot more strength in depth, but I only scratched the surface, I was having too much fun making music and rendering out loops. Boy, I must have got three good tracks out of this demo! Really, that midi editor I just found to be superb. When people criticize the midi in REAPER, then they should compare it to this. It was better than cubase because there was none of that faffing about with window re-sizing. I hear they still haven't sorted it out yet (cubase).

I didn't really use the audio side of things apart from importing and topping and tailing and fading a few loops. No problems there. Nothing to report.

Really, just the standard version they are doing now would be more than enough for me. I'm glad they brought it to light and that they are moving in the right direction. And I really want to plug my guitar into that Vandal. I suppose I can install it on my main workstation with my focusrite interface.


cheers.

[chokehold]

Just to contradict Hink I'm NOT saying how Reaper kills Samplitude (but it does), I'm just throwing in that I make use of several of the advanced features in Reaper (extreme routing, insert hardware fx, ...) and seems that Samplitude just can't keep up with my needs and workflow requirements.

When my Reaper license ran out end of 2011, I tried fooling around with Samplitude 11 back then. Why? Because I started out with Magix Music Studio and Samplitude 6 IIRC when I started into recording my music.
Turned out to be a buy, try, sell deal for me.

I dived right in, tried to successfully complete one project that included programmed drums, recorded+reamped guitars, some MIDI/VST stuff in the background, and of course a lot of routing, grouping, item FX, fades, cuts, events, markers etc.
Learning everything as I go, using manual, YouTube vids, common sense and every other thing I could find.

Holy hell, was I glad when I decided to render the single tracks out after a week and import everything into Reaper to continue. Project done in a day from then on.

It's stone age looks aside, there are just so many things that are missing ... PAY EXTRA for a decent crossfade editor?! WTF?! A pure click orgy, my index finger started hurting the rest of the day after a few hours.

I'll never understand why anyone would choose to use that old-fashioned, restricted, click-hungry and way overpriced Samplitude thing.

See? Not a pro-Reaper post, just contra-Samplitude.

[Hink]

which is cool and why I dont really get into these debates, just like I really dont need someone else preaching their host down my throat (to be clear, I'm not suggesting this about you) neither does anyone else. I cant even defend any points comparing reaper to samp because I never have even opened up reaper.

It is what it is, we're all different and fortunately there is something for pretty much anyone. See? Not pro, not contra anything...simply content

[dgkenney]

For me, there is no debate. Samplitude cuts the mustard.

It is silly to debate which DAW is better. They all have their strengths. Sampitude, for example, may cut the mustard, but Reaper cuts the cheese.

Dan

[Hink]

For me, there is no debate. Samplitude cuts the mustard.

It is silly to debate which DAW is better. They all have their strengths. Sampitude, for example, may cut the mustard, but Reaper cuts the cheese.

Dan

...no longer blaming the dog?

[tapper mike]

For me, there is no debate. Samplitude cuts the mustard.

It is silly to debate which DAW is better. They all have their strengths. Sampitude, for example, may cut the mustard, but Reaper cuts the cheese.

Dan

...no longer blaming the dog?

Rolling on that one.


Actually I prefer AWB. Cuts the Cake and picks up the pieces.

[codec_spurt]

For me, there is no debate. Samplitude cuts the mustard.

It is silly to debate which DAW is better. They all have their strengths. Sampitude, for example, may cut the mustard, but Reaper cuts the cheese.

Dan

Well, I tried to word it as impassively as I possibly could, but I obviously failed horribly there.

What I meant was, it sounds ok. I even said I am not a very good judge of these things and I also mentioned that I don't take an interest in them or care anyway.

My rationale being that anything around these days sounds ok to me and I can make good music with it.


But, I am also not saying that it's not the best OR that it might have the most super-duper 'sound-engine' known to man. I don't know and don't care. I went to pains to point that out.

I also don't need another DAW, I'm quite happy with the half a dozen or so I use on a fairly regular basis. But thanks for pointing out they all have their strengths. I totally agree with you, in fact, I would go further, they all also have their own weaknesses too.

Now can we just agree to agree on the subject and not disagree that we do agree, if you see what I mean.


I wasn't evangelising for Samplitude (as I don't own it), just saying that I could understand why some people might. It's a great DAW. I don't think this is the typical 'my DAW is better than yours debate', do you? It seems a fairly measured and balanced weighing up of the pros and cons, with lots of input from the people that actually use the program, who on the whole are the most un-bigoted of all the DAW users I've come across.


cheers.

[ObsoleteAcc99]

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[KBSoundSmith]

I downloaded the Samplitude demo a few days back, and between watching the Tim Dolbear and Kraznet videos and running through Samplitude on my own, I've been quite impressed so far.

While I haven't made up my mind yet, I'm leaning towards picking up a copy. There's a sale on the crossgrade versions at a few places, and I was half wondering whether anyone had an opinion on getting the download version versus the boxed version (the primary difference being that the boxed version has a printed manual and discs, that and likely shipping charges).

Otherwise, does anyone have any resources or opinions to share? If my background is useful regarding any advice you might give, my musical background is classical and electronic, and I am currently using Sibelius for scoring and Cubase as my main DAW. If I get Samplitude, I'll probably sell some of my other software I haven't mentioned.


EDIT: Also, does anyone know whether or not one can switch copy protection methods? Let's say I started with a C/R version, but sometime down the line would like to have the codemeter dongle -- is that possible?

[Hink]

I downloaded the Samplitude demo a few days back, and between watching the Tim Dolbear and Kraznet videos and running through Samplitude on my own, I've been quite impressed so far.

While I haven't made up my mind yet, I'm leaning towards picking up a copy. There's a sale on the crossgrade versions at a few places, and I was half wondering whether anyone had an opinion on getting the download version versus the boxed version (the primary difference being that the boxed version has a printed manual and discs, that and likely shipping charges).

Otherwise, does anyone have any resources or opinions to share? If my background is useful regarding any advice you might give, my musical background is classical and electronic, and I am currently using Sibelius for scoring and Cubase as my main DAW. If I get Samplitude, I'll probably sell some of my other software I haven't mentioned.


EDIT: Also, does anyone know whether or not one can switch copy protection methods? Let's say I started with a C/R version, but sometime down the line would like to have the codemeter dongle -- is that possible?

I'm 99% sure you can change the copy protection anytime you like...as for downloads of the crossgrade, I got samp on a crossgrade special deal in 07 and I'm pretty sure the reason for these deals is to get rid of the hard copies that are one or two patches ago if you know what I mean. I had to upgrade mine when I got it to the latest patch and that's what they told me then.

Tim and Kraznet are great guys with very helpful videos, I've become pretty good friends with Tim on FB which is a nice bonus. No matter how you choose best wishes with your decision