Your next guitar?

[tapper mike]

Incredible!

Oddly enough, it seems to me like a modern version of Jerry Garcia's guitars. A thousand two hand tapping shredders just shed a tear.

Including yours truely.

[Daimonicon]

Bought a ESP Viper Baritone secondhand in mint condition. Never played that low, B, and with so thick strings but it was about time to do it.

[Hink]

Bought a ESP Viper Baritone secondhand in mint condition. Never played that low, B, and with so thick strings but it was about time to do it.

baritones are a ball to play, do you feel like you're a little kid when you play it?

[Daimonicon]

Bought a ESP Viper Baritone secondhand in mint condition. Never played that low, B, and with so thick strings but it was about time to do it.

baritones are a ball to play, do you feel like you're a little kid when you play it?

Actually no and I dont have big monsterhands either. The neck is thinner too than on my esp horizon. I find the baritone to be very easy to play on.

[Hink]

Bought a ESP Viper Baritone secondhand in mint condition. Never played that low, B, and with so thick strings but it was about time to do it.

baritones are a ball to play, do you feel like you're a little kid when you play it?

Actually no and I dont have big monsterhands either. The neck is thinner too than on my esp horizon. I find the baritone to be very easy to play on.

I do too, but I can't help but have memories of when I was a youngster due to the length of the neck...it's a good feeling tbh, also I feel like I have plenty of room to play

[Daimonicon]

Bought a ESP Viper Baritone secondhand in mint condition. Never played that low, B, and with so thick strings but it was about time to do it.

baritones are a ball to play, do you feel like you're a little kid when you play it?

Actually no and I dont have big monsterhands either. The neck is thinner too than on my esp horizon. I find the baritone to be very easy to play on.

I do too, but I can't help but have memories of when I was a youngster due to the length of the neck...it's a good feeling tbh, also I feel like I have plenty of room to play

I started to play guitar when I was 15 so I can't relate to it.

[Hink]

Bought a ESP Viper Baritone secondhand in mint condition. Never played that low, B, and with so thick strings but it was about time to do it.

baritones are a ball to play, do you feel like you're a little kid when you play it?

Actually no and I dont have big monsterhands either. The neck is thinner too than on my esp horizon. I find the baritone to be very easy to play on.

I do too, but I can't help but have memories of when I was a youngster due to the length of the neck...it's a good feeling tbh, also I feel like I have plenty of room to play

I started to play guitar when I was 15 so I can't relate to it.

@15 I was still tiny

[Peter - IK Multimedia]

I thought that was from Halo... Much nicer than the one I picked up from them:

[Dean Aka Nekro]

That's based on a Jackson RR is it Peter? Nice.

John, Love that 10-string or however many it has, Looks superb but 7 and 8 is plenty enough for me!

I'd take a guess that the reason I find longer scale-length guitars along with industrial gauge strings natural to play on is due to starting out playing bass guitar for a good few years (Well I still do out of necessity).
I always had full 34" along with making use of 5-strings whenever possible.

Really am excited/looking forwards to getting a 29" scale neck for one of my Jackson's when I can afford to do so/get through the priorities list.

Anyway future plans aside without a doubt the next new guitar will be the already mentioned LTD M-17

All the best to all as always

Dean

[tapper mike]

@5'5" 110lbs and shrinking more quickly then I like. As much as I like playing the bass I'll never play a full size electric bass again. Hell I'd survive one set with my Les Paul and then have to switch instruments. Not only was I developing tendonitis in my shoulder that went down my arm I also felt I was being crushed.

Same thing with my Z6. While I love the thing I never play it in a standing position.

[tapper mike]

Well.... I finally caved and bought myself another guitar.

It is as shown....



Swamp ash oil finished tele with maple neck and bound maple fretboard
It was $150 including shipping.


Depending on what I get out if it in my first month or so I may not mod it at all. Now to find the 50 tele licks you must know.

[hibidy]

Looks and sounds great!

[trimph1]

I've never liked the sound of plucking with a coin

But that means you don't like Queen!

I like a little bit of resistance so find credit card plastic pretty good, you can even get a little press that cuts out plectrums from cards.

I just cut mine ...

[tapper mike]

Just because this thread should never die our get to low on the page.....

Anyone ever thought about a transplant?
I'm starting to see some reasonably priced Variax (300,700) guitars pop up on ebay. I hate the older Variax necks and I'm not especially fond of the bodies either.

The video I linked to... is a guy who later did a variax transplant. I'm thinking about the same.

[tapper mike]

So I got my SZ furrian two days ago. (tele style, maple neck swamp ash body)

I was/am impressed. It exceeded in some areas.

The bad,

The neck joint has a very minute uneven gap. It's just visibly noticable but doesn't affect the stability of the neck. the sustain or other factors.

The stirng trees bind. There is nothing like that creaking sound when tuning up.

The fair.
The tuners are much better then what I expected for the price but they'll be replayed along with the string trees and the nut. The nut isn't bad but it's a smidgen high. The frets are notJumbo as stated by the manufacturer, and shown on the selling image (remember I bought this direct from the manufuacter/distributer) They are only slightly thicker mediums.

I'm playing it with 10's now which are a little stiff for my fingers. I've played with 09's fof the better part of the last ten years. It's a little bit of work because I pick up a guitar once a week but I'm managing. I'm tempted to take it down to 09's but I'd rather just build up my fingers first.

I've been toying with neck adjustment and saddle hieght. Every time I get it down to what is a decent level my 9th fret starts to buzz, and it's intermittant. Sometimes it's fine and sometimes it's not. I may be that the fret is a little high (my eyes aint what they used to be) I'm afraid to pull out the mallet and tap it down as I have a rubber mallet handy but I don't have a wooden dowel rod.

The Good/Great
The Body....
The advertised model was swamp as oil finish) I liked the concept of letting the body breath and I somewhat buy into the whole relic'd notion. The body is three piece swam ash but trying to find the seems is near impossible. They did a great job of gluing the wood. It's a thick clear glossy finish of unknown origin. Which while not being what I expected or paid for nonetheless looks great. The belly cut and forearm contour were also nice features for a tele at this price point.


Back to the neck.

The neck is two piece maple with an off white not quite cream binding. The binding is only slightly off putting visually. It's fine as far as binding goes but it makes the neck (as well as the neck finish) look plasticy.
While there is a stripe that goes along the back I doubt if it's rosewook It may just be a laminant finish. The binding is just to cover where the two pieces of maple join. I've always loved maple fretboards but have been disapponted with them in the past. They've always warped on me. Time can only tell with this one however I'm more hopeful as it is a two piece rather then a single piece maple neck. The back and fretboard are finished with the same glossy thick finish of unknown origin. There is very little grain lined that stand out on the back or the fretboard. I'm not complaining.
The neck is the Nut: 1 5/8's at the nut and it has a "C" shape. It's not a modern C that's for sure. I expected and wanted a slightly thicker neck then my current stable and that's what I got. Although I quibble about the thickness for the most part it survives many of my ted greene chords from hell.
The scale length is 25.5 and is okay. After numerous minor adjustments to the saddle action and the nut.... It's was perfectly intonated. I was surpised after seeing that guys review and his decision to install an earvana nut. The harmonics ring out loud and clear. There doesn't appear to be a dead spot on the neck.

Another thing to point out. The frets were dressed and polished. I've bought a few direct from the manufactuer guitars before and they were crap out of the box even in the $800 range. This thing was $129 20 dollars for shipping and honestly it's a heck of a lot better then MIM tele's/strats. Or Bennet/Samick's. And I'm a big fan of Samicks' currently own one and have owned five at one time.

The Tone.
I tested the guitar with a Roland Cube 30, A Pignose 30 Hog, My pandora mini and the direct guitar in for my Yamaha AW G using various gutitar settings.
Unfortunately I do have nieghbors and you really don't get the full cosm sound unless you go past 6 on the master gain. When it goes past four the cops are showing up at my door.

For a three piece ash body this is put together well. I can't see the seems where the wood is joined. The ash body really resonates. I've got an alder strat, various mahogany guitars (freeway, parker P44) and maple bodies but this thing really sings. The string through design and chrome bridge plate may have something to do with that. The clarity of the tone is extremely impressive. Even for cheap single coils. Honestly I could detect no noise from these generic single coils. It could simply be in part to the fact that they aren't high output overwound pups. They are simple stock generic variety.
The pups picked up nothing from my monitors/computers or energy saver lights. Granted I wasn't facing them at the time and I was a good 8 feet from anything electrical other then my amp. They are fairly punchy pickups. Play hard and you'll hear a beefy tele tone coming thru. Play soft and you don't lose the sustain/decay. The bridge pup is a little further away from the bridge then a standard tele/strat. It doesn't have super twang but it does have some twang when you need it.

Overall I'm impressed.