Attn: FM and Chip synth addicts

[alvfaria]

My synth has arrived, too. Sounds pretty impressive! But the gui is really too big.

[Asuyuka]

here's an alternative YM2612 vst emu (free)


http://wonthelp.info/2612/

Thanks! I'm gonna have lots of fun with this. There's also oldie but goodie VOPM.

Technically, the patch rips aren't illegal. After all, they're just instructions telling how a synth should sound. Neither are the files they came from, though those are considerably more gray area than the actual patches.

Whether its good ethics to, however, is another matter.

[IrionDaRonin]

here's an alternative YM2612 vst emu (free)


http://wonthelp.info/2612/

Wow, i can't believe it.
It sounds EXACT to the real games soundtracks.
And for free, awesome.

Thanks for sharing.

Have a nice day

[V0RT3X]

here's an alternative YM2612 vst emu (free)


http://wonthelp.info/2612/

Wow, i can't believe it.
It sounds EXACT to the real games soundtracks.
And for free, awesome.

Thanks for sharing.

Have a nice day

I think i heard this one and I was going to mention this to others on here. It sounds pretty amazing IMO and I like it

Kind of wish it was available for OSX users, but I still have a older PC system for stuff like this.

[Sendy]

I'l tell you what else goes on similar to ripping data from old game ROMs - CRATE DIGGING! Similar sort of thing, sampling old novelty records and the like - technically illegal, but in reality, nobody cares about that old "sounds of hawaai" record anymore, nor does anybody rely on it for income. There's something beautiful about taking old, discarded culture, giving it some love and re-appropriating it into a new context. If you haven't heard DJ Shadow's Endtroducing you're missing out. And to rule it out retroactively would be to rob electronic and dance music a lot of it's richness.

I stopped crate digging years ago because there are scores of people who have taken the fun out of sampling. Even my ex used to say it was cheating. So I thought screw you all, I'm going to make everything I do from scratch, and buy what I can't make from sample library sellers. I even make my own breakbeats now out of my keyboard drumming. Sadly I was not able to give up my Amen and Iconic Classic Breaks addiction

[Asuyuka]

here's an alternative YM2612 vst emu (free)


http://wonthelp.info/2612/

Wow, i can't believe it.
It sounds EXACT to the real games soundtracks.
And for free, awesome.

Thanks for sharing.

Have a nice day

It looks to be both Gens and GX sound emulations, two of the best available, wrapped into a candy coated VST shell. I think its tasty. And a great way to handle this!

[toitoi]

Sadly I was not able to give up my Amen and Iconic Classic Breaks addiction

What other breaks are iconic besides Amen?

[Sendy]

Sadly I was not able to give up my Amen and Iconic Classic Breaks addiction

What other breaks are iconic besides Amen?

Apache, Think (about it), Funky Drummer, Hot Pants, Chocolate Buttermilk, Soul Pride, Skull Snaps, Scorpio. To me those are the most iconic and instantly recognizable from the top of my head, but there are countless more.

[Nystul]

Technically, the patch rips aren't illegal. After all, they're just instructions telling how a synth should sound. Neither are the files they came from, though those are considerably more gray area than the actual patches.

I think you have it reversed. Distributing game roms without permission of the publishers is clearly illegal, while the synth presets alone would be more of a gray area. Of course laws and enforcement vary by country. Sega is actually in the business of selling Genesis/Megadrive game ROMs as PC downloads since 2010, so one can get the ROMs for many of the popular old games legally for a bit of money (and by the same token it would be easy to prove loss of revenue if Sega wanted to sue someone for distributing such files).

[toitoi]

Thanks, Sendy

[Asuyuka]

Technically, the patch rips aren't illegal. After all, they're just instructions telling how a synth should sound. Neither are the files they came from, though those are considerably more gray area than the actual patches.

I think you have it reversed. Distributing game roms without permission of the publishers is clearly illegal, while the synth presets alone would be more of a gray area. Of course laws and enforcement vary by country. Sega is actually in the business of selling Genesis/Megadrive game ROMs as PC downloads since 2010, so one can get the ROMs for many of the popular old games legally for a bit of money (and by the same token it would be easy to prove loss of revenue if Sega wanted to sue someone for distributing such files).

Actually, the files I were referring to, in my post that you quoted, were game music logs, not ROMs. I know ROMs are illegal, but both music logs and the associated patches would be easily looked over as being a technical grey area.

[IrionDaRonin]

ROMS are not illegal as far as you are an owner of the real games and the console actually.
It happens with games from Genesis, from Commodore and many more consoles.
At least here in Spain is the way to go, if the laws has changed or are different in other countries, i don't know it.

Yes it is a bit nonsense that having the real thing, you will download ROMS and play in the PC, but many people are in front of PCs big part of their time and maybe they won't plug all the wires in TV, configure everything to make it work in the modern TVs, which i think it won't work anymore, it would be a little pain in the arse. I think most part of people don't want to see super pixels in HD.

Have a nice day

[Asuyuka]

ROMS are not illegal as far as you are an owner of the real games and the console actually.
It happens with games from Genesis, from Commodore and many more consoles.
At least here in Spain is the way to go, if the laws has changed or are different in other countries, i don't know it.

Yes it is a bit nonsense that having the real thing, you will download ROMS and play in the PC, but many people are in front of PCs big part of their time and maybe they won't plug all the wires in TV, configure everything to make it work in the modern TVs, which i think it won't work anymore, it would be a little pain in the arse. I think most part of people don't want to see super pixels in HD.

Have a nice day

In the US, its pretty much illegal, except if you own the cart or Game Pak, back up your own, and destroy it when you give away or destroy the original cart. This doesn't apply to newer games, for legalese reasons.

I am very much a gamer. I'll go ahead and emulate a PSX or PS2 because its legal (emulators are legal in the States), and because its easier than setting up one of my own consoles and I can put the disc right in the computer. And yes, I've been at this gaming business for a very long time.

I can't help but think JBM SPaCer would be the perfect, but trolling, counterpart to all these Genesis emulations.

[foosnark]

It's funny; messing with FMDrive (GUI too big and disorganized and unintuitive) and YM2612 (GUI waaaaaay too small and cryptic) made me fire up FM8 and realize just how easy it is. And flexible. And awesome. I threw together a cool sounding patch from scratch and was tweaking it and playing with it and then realized I was late for work.

There's a place in my heart for more restricted, chiptunes-era stuff. I just wish there was a little more effort put into a clean, usable GUI. I might play around with synths that have poor workflow and user experience, but the ones I actually use and come back to are the clean ones.

[AZZZ]

There is VOPMex MacVST, AU and each OS 64bit compatible version of VOPM.
http://picopicose.com/software.html