Linux...anybody using it?

[jeffh]

The release of PyDAWv3 should be coming very soon

Hi, do you have something like a 4x4 Midisport midi interface? Curious as to
PyDAW being used to host groups of rackmount midi synths, since so many
are on the market at attractive prices. If you're quick on Craigslist,
you could haul in a decent stack of graybeard Korg, Roland, Alesis, and Yamaha,
for $600, on a slow tuesday.

Combined with the built-ins, that could be pretty suite for
bread & butter, as well as more esoteric creations.
Cheers

Well, it still doesn't have that capability yet, and it never will...

BUT....

There's a reason for that...

BECAUSE....

I'll soon be announcing a 2nd product that will...

...and...

in proper Bitwig style...

I'll be promoting it as "the future" long before there's anything to show anybody

[jeffh]

The release of PyDAWv3 should be coming very soon, there's only a few more issues left to address...

Very cool, I was just checking the site for news yesterday. Can we access git yet or should we wait for a release tarball ?

Best,

dp

I think it's OK to do so... It's pretty stable now, and AFAIK, I won't be making any more changes to the project file format...

The issues I'm still addressing are pretty minor stuff really... I think you'll find that nearly every shortcoming of PyDAWv2 was addressed in PyDAWv3, once I get the release out the door, it's going to go through another period of rapid updates like PyDAWv2 did that should really polish everything up...

[pc999]

Glad to know about Pydaw3

(copy past)

BTW I downloaded the demo of FLStudio 11 to Ubuntu (12.10) and I tried to run it with wine (just to try it as I wouldnt like to rely on it) and to my suprisse it actually runs, the demo song actualy runs! That is impressive

But... I dont have any words on the menus and the like, I also have some distortion on the sound but I cant open anything, namely audio setting, because I dont know where things are...

Anyway I lurked a bit before close it and it actually seems to run nice, I could even play with harmor.

Anyway if anyone knows how I could improve the situation I would be glad to test it a bit more.

[jeffh]

Glad to know about Pydaw3

PyDAW3 is glad to know about you

(copy past)

BTW I downloaded the demo of FLStudio 11 to Ubuntu (12.10) and I tried to run it with wine (just to try it as I wouldnt like to rely on it) and to my suprisse it actually runs, the demo song actualy runs! That is impressive

But... I dont have any words on the menus and the like, I also have some distortion on the sound but I cant open anything, namely audio setting, because I dont know where things are...

Anyway I lurked a bit before close it and it actually seems to run nice, I could even play with harmor.

Anyway if anyone knows how I could improve the situation I would be glad to test it a bit more.

I don't know man, Reaper **officially** supports WINE, and still doesn't work right more often than not... I think the bottom line is that nothing will ever run well in WINE unless it's very simple and doesn't require high performance or elaborate GUIs(ie: not DAWs or plugins)... I think a native Linux port is a much more worthy use of development resources...

[glokraw]

Anyway if anyone knows how I could improve the situation I would be glad to test it a bit more.

There are font collections in synaptic, and on the net, for Ubuntu, to supply
common windows apps fonts, FLS may even have a custom font, or preferences
you can change.

Start wine/FLS in a terminal, and missing .dll files may be mentioned.
Updating the gtk, qt, and other widget collections may be lucky.
The video card choice, is crucial, as support for newest combo chipsets
takes $time$. I have been happy with older nVidia cards.

My reaper usage is problem free, but I do only small simple projects,
10 tracks or less. The wide range of plugins and stand-alones that work
without issues, is amazing.

Cheers

[glokraw]

The release of PyDAWv3 should be coming very soon

Hi, do you have something like a 4x4 Midisport midi interface? Curious as to
PyDAW being used to host groups of rackmount midi synths, since so many
are on the market at attractive prices. If you're quick on Craigslist,
you could haul in a decent stack of graybeard Korg, Roland, Alesis, and Yamaha,
for $600, on a slow tuesday.

Combined with the built-ins, that could be pretty suite for
bread & butter, as well as more esoteric creations.
Cheers

Well, it still doesn't have that capability yet, and it never will...

BUT....

There's a reason for that...

BECAUSE....

I'll soon be announcing a 2nd product that will...

...and...

in proper Bitwig style...

I'll be promoting it as "the future" long before there's anything to show anybody

First comes assimilation, then dominance, then...















...kittens Details, predictions, gossip, calico, and manx, we want it all!

[jeffh]

First comes assimilation, then dominance, then...

...

...kittens Details, predictions, gossip, calico, and manx, we want it all!

I won't divulge too much detail just yet, but why not give you just enough to pique your curiosity?

PyDAW is a pattern-based alternative DAW concept designed specifically for pattern-based electronic music, and it's also a suite of plugins to help accomplish the same...

Especially with the forthcoming PyDAWv3, I dare say it's f***ing good for making electronic music, and the plugins have reached a very special plateau... Euphoria was already the best sampler for Linux (and has only received incremental improvement), the new Way-V has raised the bar for Linux synthesizers, and Modulex is a very good swiss-army-knife of effects processors...

Having said that, PyDAWv2 sucked for traditional recorded genres(Rock/Metal/Pop, etc...), and PyDAWv3 actually is even worse...

So am I ceding the traditional genres to Ardour to focus on PyDAW's original niche? Hell no, in fact, I'm coming directly for them with the intent of competing for all of the same userbase...

How so, you ask?

Well, PyDAW will be quite mature soon(PyDAWv3 gets it 90% of the way there, PyDAWv4 will get it 100% of the way there), to the point that there won't be much left to do to it without bloating it out... So, rather than "jump the shark" like most other DAWs do, I'm going to put it in maintenance mode and only add things that truly make sense, and, wait for it...

Fork PyDAW into a completely conventional Cubase-clone-style DAW like everybody else is making... Think about it, PyDAW's plugins, and the various reusable GUI and audio engine components, made into a completely conventional format... and... I'm even going to implement my own plugin format and an alternative to Jack, except not implemented in the worst conceivable way like Jack is... Whenever I divulge the architectural details of JD-Rack (Jack Done Right Audio Connection Kit), the response will be "OMFG, GENIUS!!! So elegant, robust and efficient..."

It's not even that I care so much about recorded genres, or that I think a Jack-like system has much use in a proper DAW, it's really just that it will be a trivial amount of effort for me to make... I'm thinking when I do finally start it, I should have a functional, stable release out the door in a month or two...

[voidseeker]

Linux is a recipe for massive premature hair-loss, it's not worth the effort involved swimming against the current...Pick your fights intelligently.

[seismic1]

I've been using Linux for 20 years. Still got my hair too.

[jeffh]

Linux is a recipe for massive premature hair-loss, it's not worth the effort involved swimming against the current...Pick your fights intelligently.

That would've been a reasonable reply anywhere in the first 5 pages or so, but the last 20 pages have devolved into the "KVR LinuxUsers/LinuxCurious Thread", you're a little late to the party

[glokraw]

Linux is a recipe for massive premature hair-loss, it's not worth the effort involved swimming against the current...Pick your fights intelligently.

And windows 8 is the largest factor in the crash of PC sales.
Why don't you hand out some of the unsold copies, when you
release your PY-in-the-Sky-DAW?

[jeffh]

Linux is a recipe for massive premature hair-loss, it's not worth the effort involved swimming against the current...Pick your fights intelligently.

...

Why don't you hand out some of the unsold copies, when you
release your PY-in-the-Sky-DAW?

LOLWUT?

[glokraw]

...thats a pretty deviant smiley.

[ret]

And windows 8 is the largest factor in the crash of PC sales.

Very true. We should thank microsoft for making such a horrible mess of a product. May they continue that path...

A little update to my linux studio. I ditched *all* windows vst & wine stuff and went back to pure native linux. As my system was getting rather complex I felt it was not worth the trouble to have that massive stack of win vst's etc. If needed I can always boot to windows and use those there. Or more likely to mac since I'm planning to get rid of windows completely.

[BrokenTrance]

jeffh, any plans on something like Live's session view/clip launch?