Echoplex VST

[Brian @ IK Multimedia]

luckily enough there are another devs with completely different approach - I have reported exactly the same issue in Melda plugins years ago and got this answer: I dont hear it,but will analyze it and try to find a solution...and next month ALL Melda plugins /and they have a lot more plugins than IK/ were equipped with brand new modulator and automation protection system...

Actually, that is more or less what I said at the very start. And the first thing I did was check with our support manager about the status of Ch00rD's report. What I heard back was that it was referred to the dev team. I'll be following up on it during this week. That is my purpose for pursuing this discussion.

It is important to us to make IK software as issue-free for all users as we can. But also, I want to keep an atypical issue like this in perspective in public discussions, because it is not something that is going to affect most users. But that does not mean that we don't take it seriously.

[zerocrossing]

indeed. i had an echoplex when i was a teen. loved it.

my take was that line6 and UA were kinda tied for echoplex plugins.

but i havent tried all those listed here.

in my live setup i use echolive, you can see it near the end here:



tho i don't go into it much. i started using it when i was running nuendo and id use echolives tap feature but now in reaper i use its own tap tempo and sync echolive to host.

so maybe ill change echo plugins at some point since pretty much any will work that way.

You'll have go give me some tips on how to get Echolive to respond to MIDI. The few moments I spent with the manual were a bit frustrating.

[Ch00rD]

luckily enough there are another devs with completely different approach - I have reported exactly the same issue in Melda plugins years ago and got this answer: I dont hear it,but will analyze it and try to find a solution...and next month ALL Melda plugins /and they have a lot more plugins than IK/ were equipped with brand new modulator and automation protection system...

Actually, that is more or less what I said at the very start. And the first thing I did was check with our support manager about the status of Ch00rD's report. What I heard back was that it was referred to the dev team. I'll be following up on it during this week. That is my purpose for pursuing this discussion.

It is important to us to make IK software as issue-free for all users as we can. But also, I want to keep an atypical issue like this in perspective in public discussions, because it is not something that is going to affect most users. But that does not mean that we don't take it seriously.

Not exactly. Indeed, the first thing you did was ask me for details to look into it. But in the same post, thus before I even could reply to that by sending you those details, you were already telling me that "It sounds like this is an issue specific to your system, as "zipper noise" is not typical with any IK plugins." So you were already making those claims before checking with your support manager and hearing about it having been thrown into the bottomless pit, err, referred to the dev team. I sincerely hope you guys fix this issue, but I'm not holding my breath. Because I was being told the same thing last time I reported the exact same issues - actually.

And unless you or anyone else can show me a screen cap with audio doing the exact same test as I showed you above, but *without* any zipper artefacts, you have no factual basis to still claim that it is an "atypical issue", nor that "it is not something that is going to affect most users." You seem to be confusing users being affected by this issue with users actually noticing that they are affected by this issue.

There really is no need for you to explain 'for the sake of balance' that these issues may not be relevant to people who don't tweak parameters, because I already noted such qualifications myself in my initial post on this thread. And the arguments you gave above don't convince me that you're very serious at all about making "IK software as issue-free for all users as [you] can", but rather that you're trying to skew the public opinion to your advantage by downplaying the issue without factual basis. In any type of public discussion where your arguments would be held to a stricter standard, such as an academic discourse or a court room, such arguments wouldn't stand a chance. Again, please show me the proof - I showed you mine, and it's easily reproducible (which another user has confirmed, too), so it's simply your turn now as a matter of common sense. This should also be very easy for you: I assume you have (1) a computer with a DAW/host for your plug-ins, (2) something that can play a sine wave, (3) a screen capture tool that also records audio, (4) an internet connection, and (5) one spare minute? Feel free to ask for help if this proves difficult, that's why we have a forum like this.

Now, you said that you would be "following up on it during this week", a week ago. So why haven't I heard anything back from you yet? Not that the lack of a follow-up surprises me at all, it is completely what I expected, as the exact same thing has happened before whenever I reported issues to IK Multimedia.

[AC222]

If you aren't opposed to using the Nebula sampler, signaltonoize aka rhythminmind has a free sample library of the echoplex for Nebula. The controls are obviously less versatile but it might sound more realistic than almost any algorithmic attempts with more depth and less artifacts.

Having said that, the IK one will probably be your best bet as it will have all the controls. In the last few months, I've really come around to their emulations for amp sims and compressors.

[LAGinz]

I know there are a lot of people who aren't crazy about Nomad Factary here, but has anyone compared the IK Echoplex to the versions contained in Nomad Factory's Echoes? As I recall, it was one of the two Nomad Factory plugins (Magnetic being the other one)that had a number of fans,-and received some good mag reviews.

[annode]

I know there are a lot of people who aren't crazy about Nomad Factary here, but has anyone compared the IK Echoplex to the versions contained in Nomad Factory's Echoes? As I recall, it was one of the two Nomad Factory plugins (Magnetic being the other one)that had a number of fans,-and received some good mag reviews.

Tried out the Nomad Factory 'Echoes' yesterday and it's one nice box.
Want to try the IK version today. The rate control on the Nomad 'Echoes' can imitate the sounds you get when you move the tape head on a real echoplex...I know 'cause I own one.

[Plajia]

I really like IK EchoFlex. this is an example I just used it on the Ukulele intro on this new mix I did. its nice. as a kinda slap back. give some nice space.


https://soundcloud.com/been-hypnotized- ... -a-s-s-i-i

[annode]

Thanks for sharing.

When I think echoplex I think of the wild theremin feed-backing delays in the middle of Zeppelin "Whole Lotta Love" or it's use on Hendrix "Electric Lady Land".
Or James Gang "Rides Again". It's a classic box. A good emu of it with a few midi pedal controls tied into it is a trip waiting to happen.

[K-Slash]

I really like IK EchoFlex. this is an example I just used it on the Ukulele intro on this new mix I did. its nice. as a kinda slap back. give some nice space.


https://soundcloud.com/been-hypnotized- ... -a-s-s-i-i

Sounds real nice indeed.

But you should work more on your voice, if it's you singing. At times you're slightly out of tune.

[Plajia]

thanks man yes i'm singing but sorry I know what is out of tune and im kinda really not just a matter of taste.

[K-Slash]

thanks man yes i'm singing but sorry I know what is out of tune and im kinda really not just a matter of taste.

I will not start a debate here.

But out-of-tune has nothing to do with taste because I like the way you sing. It's a fact. And at times I hear it. Period.

[hibidy]

So I'm just demoing the IK for the first time. Sounds good but it's confusing. I'm guessing the a is one delay and b is another? Is there a manual?

Also, anyone else run into where all of the sudden for a second it's mono? (no I'm not filling out one of those damn tickets! I don't even own it yet!) Just wanted to know if anyone else has heard it.

[D.H. Miltz]

So I'm just demoing the IK for the first time. Sounds good but it's confusing. I'm guessing the a is one delay and b is another? Is there a manual?

In the T-Racks CS User Manual there's a detailed rundown.

[hibidy]

Thanks, I'm new to this CS thing for T racks

[hibidy]

Ah, a nice quick read that un-confuses me