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antto · Post by **antto** » Mon Apr 29, 2013 11:59 pm

yeah, was shocked you actually bought all that stuff
you could have saved some money if you bought a x0xi0 and a "normal" TB-303
but oh well ;]

Ch00rD · Post by **Ch00rD** » Tue Apr 30, 2013 12:20 am

Axiomstatic wrote:
antto wrote:
Antto are you amazed that I just went out and popped $8k plus for my Acid Rig.

Guys this is what I purchased in total all because of you guys here, now I am bum broke.

Roland 909
Roland 303
I found me a 606
I am thinking about an 808, just trying to bargain
Purchased ABL and a TT BassboT To go with the 303.

Oh and the 303 I purchased has been modified with a Devilfish. Not to sure how the hell this will sound, for better or for worse. I have no idea about Devilfish.

The guy wants $3500 for the 808, I said Ill give ya $3k and call it a day.

Also purchased some distortion pedals. Rat and Geiger Counter.

What you think guys I am set now to make some acid or what?

If you have a halfway decent mixing desk, yes, you got the basic acid setup covered pretty well there.

Some reverb and delay effects would be very useful as well, and a (preferably analog) poly synth would be great for some chords, pads, and special effects for a bit of variation. But for an acid rig, all that is arguably just adding extra bells and whistles to spice things up a bit.

For syncing the sequencers, you may want to look into something like the Korg KMS-30 too, btw (reminder to self: I need to get mine repaired…).

The Devil Fish mods are awesome, btw (the 'overdrive' into the filter is brutal), definitely worth some extra cash over a 'vanilla' 303 in good condition imho, and the TT-303 is on my shopping list as well.

Axiomstatic · Post by **Axiomstatic** » Tue Apr 30, 2013 12:38 am

antto wrote:yeah, was shocked you actually bought all that stuff
you could have saved some money if you bought a x0xi0 and a "normal" TB-303
but oh well ;]

Ha ha yeah I know I am bad.

Yeah but the 303 I hear is the stuff, and I dont like to cut corners you know.
And I am not really about saving money when it comes to gear, prefer the best I can get right away.

Axiomstatic · Post by **Axiomstatic** » Tue Apr 30, 2013 12:42 am

[/quote]
If you have a halfway decent mixing desk, yes, you got the basic acid setup covered pretty well there.

Some reverb and delay effects would be very useful as well, and a (preferably analog) poly synth would be great for some chords, pads, and special effects for a bit of variation. But for an acid rig, all that is arguably just adding extra bells and whistles to spice things up a bit.

For syncing the sequencers, you may want to look into something like the Korg KMS-30 too, btw (reminder to self: I need to get mine repaired…).

The Devil Fish mods are awesome, btw (the 'overdrive' into the filter is brutal), definitely worth some extra cash over a 'vanilla' 303 in good condition imho, and the TT-303 is on my shopping list as well.[/quote]

Yes well I am not sure I needed the 303 modified but the guys sold me and promised it sounds way way better then the average 303.
Now I have heard a real 303 so not sure how much better it can sound.
Anyway it is fully modified big time, everything DEVILFISH can provide on the MOD is there.

I think it will play nicely with my Juno 106.

Maybe I can upload an audio file at some stage.
Yes 2 years ago I got myself an API 1608 so i think this should suit me well.

Yesterday I ran the ABL through my desk with the RAT. Wow it sounded freaky.
Only used the program patterns as I had no time to program it but it seems very easy.

I hear the 909 will need allot processing, I have been warned already

Tricky-Loops · Post by **Tricky-Loops** » Tue Apr 30, 2013 12:43 am

I rather would have bought a nice car for this amount of money...

antto · Post by **antto** » Tue Apr 30, 2013 2:54 am

Axiomstatic wrote:
antto wrote:yeah, was shocked you actually bought all that stuff
you could have saved some money if you bought a x0xi0 and a "normal" TB-303
but oh well ;]
Ha ha yeah I know I am bad.

Yeah but the 303 I hear is the stuff, and I dont like to cut corners you know.
And I am not really about saving money when it comes to gear, prefer the best I can get right away.

i didn't mean only to save money, but also to have a pure (unmodified) 303 and heavily modified one
because now you got a heavily modified 303 and, uhm, a bass bot, which isn't really the best clone ;]

but you can always get something else, i see, money ain't no problem for you

Axiomstatic · Post by **Axiomstatic** » Tue Apr 30, 2013 4:33 am

Tricky-Loops wrote:I rather would have bought a nice car for this amount of money...

who needs a car when you can drive a real 303

Nah got a car, I am an older guy if you have not guessed already

Axiomstatic · Post by **Axiomstatic** » Tue Apr 30, 2013 4:35 am

antto wrote:
Axiomstatic wrote:
antto wrote:yeah, was shocked you actually bought all that stuff
you could have saved some money if you bought a x0xi0 and a "normal" TB-303
but oh well ;]
Ha ha yeah I know I am bad.

Yeah but the 303 I hear is the stuff, and I dont like to cut corners you know.
And I am not really about saving money when it comes to gear, prefer the best I can get right away.

i didn't mean only to save money, but also to have a pure (unmodified) 303 and heavily modified one
because now you got a heavily modified 303 and, uhm, a bass bot, which isn't really the best clone ;]

but you can always get something else, i see, money ain't no problem for you

Yes that makes sense Antto you make a very good point.
Well I aint rich thats for sure, however i do go all out with gear mate.

Um Bass Bott well I actually thought it was better out of all the clones I demoed in the past few days.
It certainly sounded better then the average xoxbox to me anyway.

I will have the real 303 in a few hours so cant wait to report back on that.

kritikon · Post by **kritikon** » Tue Apr 30, 2013 6:22 am

I hear the 909 will need allot processing, I have been warned already

Dunno about that. Much of the acid stuff didn't get fancy with the drums. And 909s do cut well through any mix - exactly why they were so popular. I previously mentioned I used samples even with regular access to a 909, but I have to admit that I never actually heard any kick samples that seemed to be as solid as a real 909. I was plenty happy with the snares and hats etc, but there is something about a real 909 kick. And we used to use the 909 pretty well dry and we were all happy with it.

606...I got one of those way back when with my 303. TBH it was just kinda thrown in as an extra. Not sure you'll get much use out of it. Yep, they were used, but they're....ermmm...I'm trying to be politic here seeing as how you just bought one...a little light on impact?

. Sure, they're handy in terms of syncing directly with a 303, but when you play it next to your 909 or 808, you're gonna have a giggle.

cytospur · Post by **cytospur** » Tue Apr 30, 2013 7:32 am

antto wrote:
Axiomstatic wrote:
antto wrote:yeah, was shocked you actually bought all that stuff
you could have saved some money if you bought a x0xi0 and a "normal" TB-303
but oh well ;]
Ha ha yeah I know I am bad.

Yeah but the 303 I hear is the stuff, and I dont like to cut corners you know.
And I am not really about saving money when it comes to gear, prefer the best I can get right away.

i didn't mean only to save money, but also to have a pure (unmodified) 303 and heavily modified one
because now you got a heavily modified 303 and, uhm, a bass bot, which isn't really the best clone ;]

but you can always get something else, i see, money ain't no problem for you

Have you actually tried a Bass Bot yet? I' ve seen you knocking it in quite a few places now. It's rather similar to people knocking a xoxbox without having tried one, which I know you have extensively.

antto · Post by **antto** » Tue Apr 30, 2013 7:38 am

no, i'm not in uk/france/usa and in any case these kind of toys are unobtainable here
you might have seen me trying to prevent people from stating that it's a real substitute for a 303, cuz it's not, and i don't need to have tried it to say this ;]

ghettosynth · Post by **ghettosynth** » Tue Apr 30, 2013 8:16 am

bmot wrote: * EDIT * I forgot to include a Routemaster track

No Capt. Tinrib?

I have a bunch of late 90s acid-techno on vinyl. I used to play the hell out of that stuff!

I still play this in the right setting.

BTW: While I can't recommend it for it's "303" sound, the FR-777 is still a fantastic piece of live kit, the sequencer is just badass for live playing. Also, the SH101 is fantastic. I modified one of mine so that it has gated porta making it quite useful as an acideee synth with an external sequencer. I used to trigger it live with an ARP 1601 and later with the FR-777.

Also, if you're going to do the tabletop live thing, which is a lot of fun, you can get a LOT of mileage out of a nord modular. Either the original or the G2 variants.

cytospur · Post by **cytospur** » Tue Apr 30, 2013 8:22 am

antto wrote:no, i'm not in uk/france/usa and in any case these kind of toys are unobtainable here
you might have seen me trying to prevent people from stating that it's a real substitute for a 303, cuz it's not, and i don't need to have tried it to say this ;]

What makes you think it's a toy? Do you think the xoxbox is a toy? Not having a go here, just interested in what you think, seeing as you clearly know your apples.

Mushy Mushy · Post by **Mushy Mushy** » Tue Apr 30, 2013 8:27 am

Looooove me a bit of Tinrib.
Saw him several times. Each time better than the last.

antto · Post by **antto** » Tue Apr 30, 2013 8:39 am

cytospur wrote:
antto wrote:no, i'm not in uk/france/usa and in any case these kind of toys are unobtainable here
you might have seen me trying to prevent people from stating that it's a real substitute for a 303, cuz it's not, and i don't need to have tried it to say this ;]
What makes you think it's a toy? Do you think the xoxbox is a toy? Not having a go here, just interested in what you think, seeing as you clearly know your apples.

i call these nice little things "toys", i really meant your usual acid-house "gear" (aka 303s and drum machines, you know)
toys because they are fun, and not very expensive by your standards, also very obtainable in your countries, quite the opposite here, so it's expensive toys in my case
still toys i would love to have

Making ACID Music???