Windows 8 sales figures

[robogone]

good luck finding anyone that can do 100wpm on a tablet. Anyone that needs to type anything is going to be well, on a desktop. The end, end of story.

Just sayin.

Apart from the fact that desktops are all but gone. Laptops are where you generally see 100wpm, but there's also a significant percentage of people who don't need 100wpm. Business communication is much more about charts and graphics now than it is about long tracts of text.

I think your "The end, end of story" is a little premature if you think that desktops are serious contenders still. Go to some Fortune 500 companies and see how many you can find. I can guarantee you that you won't find many.

[robogone]

I just disagree; if that was the case, then laptops would have done the job ages ago. They didn't.

I'm not sure what you're even disagreeing with there. Laptops have replaced desktops in many companies, and that's been the case for a few years now.

There's always going to be a need for powerful, big-screen desktop workstations. Not everything needs to be mobile (some data even shouldn't). I guess it's all about what kind of a company it is.

I haven't disagreed with that at all. That will almost certainly be the case, just that it will be with ever decreasing numbers.

I've read some PC magazines recently and they addressed this issue in detail; there's no one particular trend in ANYTHING anymore. It's all about diversity.

No real trend other than the decline in PC sales and the much larger decline in desktop sales?

I, for one, don't even have a smartphone, nor do I want one.
Too faggy for my taste (I'm gay, I'm allowed to say that).
I think tablets are just as much a gimmick, don't like them at all.
There are many people that think like me, and there are also many that don't.

I think you are in the minority with the dislike for smartphones and tablets though. Take a look at articles like this:

http://betanews.com/2013/03/18/nothing- ... ows-8-now/ (note the PC quarterly sales decline revision)

http://www.idc.com/getdoc.jsp?container ... SZCC1peskh

This one is particularly telling:

http://www.inquisitr.com/76157/tablets- ... ill-reign/ (note the graphic at the top)

In conclusion, I repeat - there's no one single trend in these things.

Look at my link immediately above this to see why that is not the case.

[FiascoAndretti]

i wish tablets were a gimmick, but clearly they are not based on sales and the dying of pc's and even mac

[maxxxter]

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[EvilDragon]

Robojam, there are usually two sides to every story, and such is this tone too.

http://www.neowin.net/news/editorial-th ... -never-die

http://www.windowstalk.org/2013/01/desk ... -the-past/

http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?o ... 6&Itemid=8

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2407958,00.asp

look, we can google each other to death here, and that'd be not only pointless, but a proper hijack of this thread.

so let's just wait and see, shall we?

regards

+1


The desktop will never die. True story (TM).

[mkdr]

If you look at the old paradigm, yes. Just Google a little and you'll see how 'serious' companies are starting to use tablets more and more often.

..as an addition to desktops, sure.

No, in place of. Check out the decline of desktop sales and the increase in tablet sales.

My company is in the top 10 largest companies in the world and there are pretty much 0 desktops in the company now and growing use of tablets. There isn't even an option in the technology ordering system to order a desktop anymore. I could walk the floor of this building (about 120 people on this floor) and I guarantee I would have a hard time finding a desktop.

Just Google for some insight into what is happening in the workplace now. You'll find it insightful.

Wow.. So people are not writing stuff anymore.. Just playing Finnish mobile games (Angry Birds, Clash of the clans, Haunted), watching youtoob and looking at cat pictures. Viva la technology revolution!

[EvilDragon]

Hehe. Good point!

[robogone]

Robojam, there are usually two sides to every story, and such is this tone too.

http://www.neowin.net/news/editorial-th ... -never-die

However this one does not address sales numbers, only the fact that the desktop will still be around in a few years, which I don't think anyone has disagreed with.

http://www.windowstalk.org/2013/01/desk ... -the-past/

This one backs up its point with ownership rather than sales. Ownership is not going to provide any forward trends - sales will do that. With households owning computers for a number of years this is a lagging indicator.

http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?o ... 6&Itemid=8

That's entirely someone's opinion and not based on any numbers at all. It's also from September 2012.

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2407958,00.asp

Again it's opinion, and it's from August 2012

look, we can google each other to death here, and that'd be not only pointless, but a proper hijack of this thread.

But you're arguing against the tide of change here. Desktop sales are declining, laptop sales are holding steady, tablet sales are increasing. The conclusion that can be drawn is that the desktop is on its way out. I see nothing (and your links show nothing) to show that there will be any kind of bounce back in desktop sales.

so let's just wait and see, shall we?

We don't have to:



I think it's pretty plain to see the trend that has been in place for 5 years now.

[EvilDragon]

So, you really think people will do their word processing and giant spreadsheet calculations on a freaking tablet? LOL.

[rifftrax]

Apart from the fact that desktops are all but gone. Laptops are where you generally see 100wpm, but there's also a significant percentage of people who don't need 100wpm. Business communication is much more about charts and graphics now than it is about long tracts of text.

On a crappy ass laptop keyboard?

Wow, you know far more talented people than I sir.

So, you really think people will do their word processing and giant spreadsheet calculations on a freaking tablet? LOL.

Exactly, it's a huge joke. I run a 3-monitor span with 2 22" monitors and a third 30" monitor set at something insane like 2560 x 1540. And it's still not enough for the kind of data I have to be able to organize.

Doing that on a tablet? f**k that noise.

[robogone]

So, you really think people will do their word processing and giant spreadsheet calculations on a freaking tablet? LOL.

Yes and no.

Laptops are more prevalent in the workplace than desktops now, so that's where most of the traditional word processing will probably lie now. Tablets however, are perfectly adequate for a lot of what goes on in the office now. There has definitely been a huge shift in how the corporate office works in recent years, particularly in those industries where they have traditionally resisted change. I have seen it in my day to day and there is a lot less emphasis on the volume of written word now.

Tablets are coming in the workplace, and that's not a prediction from me, it's based on what is going on in the real world, and certainly in the company that I work for.

[robogone]

Apart from the fact that desktops are all but gone. Laptops are where you generally see 100wpm, but there's also a significant percentage of people who don't need 100wpm. Business communication is much more about charts and graphics now than it is about long tracts of text.

On a crappy ass laptop keyboard?

Wow, you know far more talented people than I sir.

It's no different really, and many people are not using their laptop keyboard in the office - they're using a docking station with monitor and regular keyboard.

I can pretty much match the typing speed from one keyboard to the other - I just have to compensate for the size differences.

[EvilDragon]

I am REALLY picky about keyboards. ESPECIALLY those on laptops (I'm happy that my Toshiba Satellite A665-16K feels like an absolute heaven to type on, AND is fullsize with numpad! I doubt I'll ever have a laptop with keyboard as great as this.). Touchscreen typing - GTFO, it's totally uncomfortable and not ergonomic to me. And I'm not the only one.

[Kriminal]

Tablets are coming in the workplace

true, have been for years, but you cant do 100 wpm on those