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BrokenTrance wrote:jeffh, any plans on something like Live's session view/clip launch?
Hi BrokenTrance,

I've used Ableton before (mostly for faux DJing, wasn't really my cup of tea for my MIDI/VST-centric use), but the thing you're referring to is not the arrangement screen, but that screen where all of your audio items are listed, right?

I never really understood what that screen was used for, LOL, could you please explain the use-case to me?

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jeffh wrote:
BrokenTrance wrote:jeffh, any plans on something like Live's session view/clip launch?
Hi BrokenTrance,

I've used Ableton before (mostly for faux DJing, wasn't really my cup of tea for my MIDI/VST-centric use), but the thing you're referring to is not the arrangement screen, but that screen where all of your audio items are listed, right?

I never really understood what that screen was used for, LOL, could you please explain the use-case to me?
Well i recently began to understand Live :) I don't know how to explain it really, you can make small bits of beats and play it together in different ways in the session view. Then you can move or record it from there to the arrangement view. I think it's brilliant.




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Ah ha! Got it, thanks for that...

Sure, I'll implement something similar after I get done adding all of the forthcoming time-stretching features... I think that feature fits well with PyDAW's vision of being the ultimate EDM machine...

In fact, the new audio sequencing I added in PyDAWv3 is well suited for stuff like this (much more than PyDAWv2 was...).

@Err'body: PyDAWv3 Ubuntu .deb and source code packages are available from all of the usual places now... There's no PyDAW-OS images yet, I'm going to spend some time with Ubuntu 13.04 before I decide which Ubuntu version to base it on, so it might be a little while...

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Hey Jeff,

A quick note to let you know that PyDAW3 built and installed cleanly on Ubuntu 12.04, with the KXstudio overlay. Nice work on the audio features ! I haven't tested any MIDI stuff yet, but everything looks familiar and good to go.

Btw, is it ALSA-only now ?

Best,

dp

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StudioDave wrote:A quick note to let you know that PyDAW3 built and installed cleanly on Ubuntu 12.04, with the KXstudio overlay.
Cool...
StudioDave wrote:Nice work on the audio features !
Thanks... Think of it as more of a beginning than an end, I plan on refining it quite a bit over the course of the PyDAWv3 minor releases...
StudioDave wrote: I haven't tested any MIDI stuff yet, but everything looks familiar and good to go.
That was all of the best parts, if it looked familiar, you're not looking hard enough :P

PS: You have your Way-V presets now ;)
StudioDave wrote:Btw, is it ALSA-only now ?
Not yet, with all of the huge architectural changes already in PyDAWv3, I thought it best to kick that can another 2-4 weeks down the road... I did whack out an initial ALSA-backend, and the results were very encouraging, but I didn't want to hold up releasing the rest of features so that I could spin up a properly polished implementation (ie: one with a sane, limited set of configuration options that can report to the user the exact reason a configuration failed... or in other words, no cryptic Jack error messages).

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Looks like Tracktion will be Linux too :D

http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 4&start=15

Very nice it still is a little outdated but they are working hard on it, still should be better than must Linux alternatives for most cases in paradigm.
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Tracktion coming to Linux , yes that is good news , I hope it works with Jack and ALSA ok .. Guess Ill find out soon enough .

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Lookd like there is a few more Linux VST than the ones listed on KVR ranks

There is a few more

http://www.ineardisplay.com/


It should be interesting to build a list of dev and vendors of Linux VSTs, so if you know them put a link

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Hey jeffh,

I finally got some time to build/test the latest git sources. Just wanted to drop a note to say the Way_V presets are sweet. The JPad, Alien Voice, and Soft Pluck are beautiful.

Best,

dp

"Age flattens a man, Wendell".

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My son had an unused Sony Vaio laptop laying around so I installed Unbuntu on it yesterday. I must say, it's pretty impressive.

The desktop is sweet. The Office apps are quite nice, love the spreadsheet. All in all, it's a really nice OS until you have to start digging into the command line like I tried to do to install Ardour 3, which failed miserably.

What, pray tell, is so hard about a regular install program that you click that installs an application? Why would anyone necessitate using the command line?

I'm not going to do any music on it but I will load it up with graphic apps and other free stuff. I like it a lot.

P.S. I find it ironic and a little insulting that a supposed "free" open source DAW like Ardour sends you a download link with "/freeloader" in the download link. :hihi:

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LawrenceF wrote:My son had an unused Sony Vaio laptop laying around so I installed Unbuntu on it yesterday. I must say, it's pretty impressive.

The desktop is sweet. The Office apps are quite nice, love the spreadsheet. All in all, it's a really nice OS until you have to start digging into the command line like I tried to do to install Ardour 3, which failed miserably.

What, pray tell, is so hard about a regular install program that you click that installs an application? Why would anyone necessitate using the command line?

I'm not going to do any music on it but I will load it up with graphic apps and other free stuff. I like it a lot.

P.S. I find it ironic and a little insulting that a supposed "free" open source DAW like Ardour sends you a download link with "/freeloader" in the download link. :hihi:

Try Pydaw it install like any other, or go to Tracktion for the linux version (if you can run the beta).

That is a bit specific of Ardour 3 (at the moment it will be in repositories sooner or later anyway).

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LawrenceF wrote: Why would anyone necessitate using the command line?

I'm not going to do any music on it but I will load it up with graphic apps and other free stuff. I like it a lot.

P.S. I find it ironic and a little insulting that a supposed "free" open source DAW like Ardour sends you a download link with "/freeloader" in the download link. :hihi:
There are gui package managers, (synaptic, in ubuntu) from which you choose apps,
and it installs all the needed accessory libraries, apps, and data files.

Ardour 3 has always shipped as an installer, and older 2.x should be
installed using synaptic.

If you tried manually, using

sudo dpkg -i ardourxxx.deb

you would likely need to fetch several .deb files which synaptic would
do for you. Manually installing, you would put all the .debs
in the same place, and run from the same command above, a space separating each .deb file. Using synaptic video:



you feeelllthy freeloader, you! :wink:

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Thanks, but no thanks. I'll pass.

I only tried installing Ardour on a whim, not that I intended to try to use it on Linux to make any music. The laptop will make a decent general purpose machine but I have no desire to screw around making music in Linux, go around searching for free plugs and all that when I already have plugs that work on Win and OSX. Not worth the trouble. Especially since (afaik) there are no Linux drivers for any of my audio hardware and I'm not the type to use the onboard audio card.

My mobile card is the 44VSL.

But I do think the Ubuntu system is a keeper. I'll definitely be using it.

Thanks guys.

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LawrenceF wrote:... I have no desire to screw around making music in Linux, go around searching for free plugs and all that when I already have plugs that work on Win and OSX. Not worth the trouble. Especially since (afaik) there are no Linux drivers for any of my audio hardware and I'm not the type to use the onboard audio card.
This is wisdom. Use what works for you. Switching platforms for any other purpose is just nuts. I doubt I could easily recreate my composition system on another platform, not that's it's impossible but it would involve, as you say, a lot of screwing around to get something to work that is already working well and easily in Linux.

Enjoy your Ubuntu box, you can have some great fun with it.

Best,

dp

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It isn't easy to get a linux distribution a spot in the trades,
but the intrepid 'lowtech' now has a mention in Recording Magazine,
showing his fine RT linux bootable daw. Never say die 8)

http://www.getstudio1337.com/recording-magazine/

I enjoyed a glitch-free session, with the latest version,
using the Mustang amp/usb interface, routed
to Guitarix, and four instances of Rakarrack multi-fx, using
about 16 fx modules, (10 possible in each rak) plus a
very busy Hydrogen drum pattern, also sent to fx, and with
a firefox open, to send a thankyou note to lowtech, while
the tubes were warm, and the toms still shaking.
On a dinosaur computer with failing cpu cache,
that most people would not bother to fetch
out of a low-priced garage sale...do I :hihi: or :cry:

But either way, keep the keys and strings moving, in RT :wink:

Cheers
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