I think it's pretty cool that MOTU actually listens to user feedback, regarding the demo issue. It's pretty archaic to expect users to plonk $500 for a piece of software without trying it...
There are a lot of things I like about it, for instance: a) the possibility to do multiple songs inside a single project, b) multiple mixes, c) melodyne is basically integrated into it, etc.
A question for DP wizards:
Is it possible to change MIDI tracks in SEQUENCE mode to resemble those "color blocks" more commonly found in DAWs (Logic, PT, Cubase...), or are you stuck with the "chicken feet"? You get them like that in TRACK mode, but then everything is too small...
Digital Performer for Windows finally released! with demo!
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machinesworking machinesworking https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=8505 - KVRAF
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Sequence on the tabs is the Sequence Editor, you use it to edit data. The Track Editor is where you get blocks, although a big difference is blocks are all the same color in a single tracks and are parsed without slice and glue tools. It's IMO a good idea to set markers in the track overview for being able to grab data etc. Markers in DP have a lot of real use. You can expand the Tracks Overview vertically, though it's not a key command, just the +/- on the right of the window. Mostly because the information is mainly horizontal in nature, so you set the vertical to taste.MrDuke wrote: Is it possible to change MIDI tracks in SEQUENCE mode to resemble those "color blocks" more commonly found in DAWs (Logic, PT, Cubase...), or are you stuck with the "chicken feet"? You get them like that in TRACK mode, but then everything is too small...
IMO anyway the Sequence editor is for track automation and audio editing, as well as viewing multiple MIDI tracks at once, quick edits etc. Most MIDI work is done in the MIDI editor. In earlier versions of DP there was no Sequence Editor, you worked with the MID editor and the the Tracks Overview windows. That's one odd thing for people coming from other DAWs, that DP makes great use of it's Tracks Overview.
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- KVRer
- 12 posts since 13 Dec, 2006
For those who have used it, is there any kind of realtime midi processing in Performer such as Cubase midifx, or Abe's Live midifx?
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- KVRAF
- 16154 posts since 2 Dec, 2003 from Nashville, TN
Yes, if you go into the mixing console and click on an insert block for a MIDI track, you can select some live FX there.voidseeker wrote:For those who have used it, is there any kind of realtime midi processing in Performer such as Cubase midifx, or Abe's Live midifx?
Is that what you're looking for?
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- 7997 posts since 15 Aug, 2003 from seattle
As far as real time MIDI FX you get the regulars:
Arpeggiator
Change Duration
Change Velocity
DeFlam
Echo
Groove Quantize
Humanize
Invert Pitch
Quantize
Reassign Continuous Data
Remove Duplicates
Time Shift
Transpose
(way easier to deal with than Logic and more studio tools than Live)
Arpeggiator
Change Duration
Change Velocity
DeFlam
Echo
Groove Quantize
Humanize
Invert Pitch
Quantize
Reassign Continuous Data
Remove Duplicates
Time Shift
Transpose
(way easier to deal with than Logic and more studio tools than Live)
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- KVRist
- 123 posts since 4 Jul, 2005
So, thought I'd try it out. Installed the demo, entered my email and name pushed "Start Demo" and it came back saying my demo had expired. This is on a Windows machine.
Oh well...
Oh well...
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Send a report in to MOTU, I can't imagine they want that.SimSam wrote:So, thought I'd try it out. Installed the demo, entered my email and name pushed "Start Demo" and it came back saying my demo had expired. This is on a Windows machine.
Oh well...
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@TheoM
The one limitation that might be your buzzkill is there's no way to mute MIDI notes in DP.
You can mute individual audio chunks, but not MIDI notes.
It's the only odd shortcoming it has to me. Not the end of the world because honestly it's not that hard to copy a MIDI track and mess with the copy etc. but I would guess that with new users complaining about it, it comes as an update once the initial bugs in Windows and OSX are fixed.
Just off the top of my head as a Logic and DP8 user I would say a few things are better in Logic, MIDI/Matrix editor has a few graphic things I like in Logic, you can set Logic to highlight notes you're playing in the piano roll, the bar/beat lines in Logic are slightly clearer etc.
In DP the pencil tool is way more intuitive I prefer the way DP handles quantizing, and audio editing in general, you can print FX to a track in place etc.
DP has no "way" to work with it, that can be challenging at first. In Logic and Live etc. there is a working method that everyone uses, it's a single project per song etc. In DP a single project can have ten songs or more in it if you want, they can either be variations of the same song or your entire album/movie score. You can work in one sequence(Chunk) or you can use partial sequence(Chunks) to build a song. In a single song you can have multiple mix versions of the same linear 'arrange' tracks, including different FX for each mix.
One HUGE difference between DP and Logic is the object oriented MIDI in Logic VS the open MIDI in DP. In Logic I had little or no use for markers, in DP they serve to give you a visual clue to where MIDI in a track changes and to be able to grab a whole section of a song and move it quickly. Markers a super useful in DP and kinda pointless in Logic.
Multiple instruments are much easier to instantiate in DP, but MIDI tracks send midi to instrument tracks so there's this strict separation of church and state between MIDI automation and track automation that I honestly approve of, at the cost of an extra track.
That's all for now. Feel free to bother me or others with questions.
The one limitation that might be your buzzkill is there's no way to mute MIDI notes in DP.
You can mute individual audio chunks, but not MIDI notes.
It's the only odd shortcoming it has to me. Not the end of the world because honestly it's not that hard to copy a MIDI track and mess with the copy etc. but I would guess that with new users complaining about it, it comes as an update once the initial bugs in Windows and OSX are fixed.
Just off the top of my head as a Logic and DP8 user I would say a few things are better in Logic, MIDI/Matrix editor has a few graphic things I like in Logic, you can set Logic to highlight notes you're playing in the piano roll, the bar/beat lines in Logic are slightly clearer etc.
In DP the pencil tool is way more intuitive I prefer the way DP handles quantizing, and audio editing in general, you can print FX to a track in place etc.
DP has no "way" to work with it, that can be challenging at first. In Logic and Live etc. there is a working method that everyone uses, it's a single project per song etc. In DP a single project can have ten songs or more in it if you want, they can either be variations of the same song or your entire album/movie score. You can work in one sequence(Chunk) or you can use partial sequence(Chunks) to build a song. In a single song you can have multiple mix versions of the same linear 'arrange' tracks, including different FX for each mix.
One HUGE difference between DP and Logic is the object oriented MIDI in Logic VS the open MIDI in DP. In Logic I had little or no use for markers, in DP they serve to give you a visual clue to where MIDI in a track changes and to be able to grab a whole section of a song and move it quickly. Markers a super useful in DP and kinda pointless in Logic.
Multiple instruments are much easier to instantiate in DP, but MIDI tracks send midi to instrument tracks so there's this strict separation of church and state between MIDI automation and track automation that I honestly approve of, at the cost of an extra track.
That's all for now. Feel free to bother me or others with questions.
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- KVRist
- 123 posts since 4 Jul, 2005
I actually went to their site to find an email to report this, but they only had a contact for registered users. I'll give it another look tomorrow.
Shame, really wanted to try this since so much of my work is in film and TV.
Shame, really wanted to try this since so much of my work is in film and TV.
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