Fender Strat - Where does this Wire go?
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- KVRAF
- 5175 posts since 29 Apr, 2006
anyone know where I should Solder this wire to? The toggle switch is not working for the neck pickup and so on.
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- KVRAF
- 2040 posts since 15 Aug, 2012 from Australia
I'm tired of being insane. I'm going outsane for some fresh air.
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- Rad Grandad
- 38041 posts since 6 Sep, 2003 from Downeast Maine
or stay right here
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=324336
this should be in diy btw, want it moved?
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=324336
this should be in diy btw, want it moved?
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 5175 posts since 29 Apr, 2006
thanks guys. posted in a hurry. diy would make more sense. awesome thread over there hink!
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- KVRist
- 235 posts since 18 Oct, 2002
memyselfandus:
Questions: Where does the wire come from / to what is the other end connected? Any other switches that are not pictured, such as phase switches? What is the model / pick-up configuration of the guitar? Are they factory pick-ups or after-market replacements? Does the guitar been modified in any way?
Baxter
Questions: Where does the wire come from / to what is the other end connected? Any other switches that are not pictured, such as phase switches? What is the model / pick-up configuration of the guitar? Are they factory pick-ups or after-market replacements? Does the guitar been modified in any way?
Baxter
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 5175 posts since 29 Apr, 2006
Hi BaxterBaxter wrote:memyselfandus:
Questions: Where does the wire come from / to what is the other end connected? Any other switches that are not pictured, such as phase switches? What is the model / pick-up configuration of the guitar?
Baxter
the wire (2 wires together- black & white)comes from here.
I cant figure out Where to connect it. all switches are in the pic. the model is a Fender Highway 1 HSS
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- Rad Grandad
- 38041 posts since 6 Sep, 2003 from Downeast Maine
it's hard to tell from your original pic, is that the middle lug on the volume pot...if so it's the hot out which goes to the positive lug (tip) on the jack
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- KVRist
- 235 posts since 18 Oct, 2002
Hi, memyselfandus:
I think I know what is going on. Those two wires are supposed to be soldered to each other, and then covered with an insulating cover of some kind, probably tape, which has probably fallen off. If I am correct, they come from your bridge pick-up, which is a humbucking pick-up that has 2 coils wired together in series, and that is the point where the first coil ends and the second one begins, i.e. the point that the two coils are connected together. The reason they do that is so that you can separate the coils later, if you wish, and use one or the other, instead of both together, or wire the two of them out of phase, which will give a cool, kind of hollow sound. If you look at the second image you posted, the wiring diagram, you can see the point where they are wired together and capped, which is at the very bottom of the rectangle that you drew in. You will notice that they come out of a large insulator that has the 4 wires from your bridge pick-up. So, all you need to do is cover them with a piece of electricians tape, or some other suitable insulator, and you should be good to go. They do not need to be connected to anything else. The problem you are having with the neck pick-up not working is probably another issue, perhaps a bad switch, bad connection, etc. Let me know if this all makes sense to you, and post any further questions you have, and I will try to help.
Good luck!
Baxter
I think I know what is going on. Those two wires are supposed to be soldered to each other, and then covered with an insulating cover of some kind, probably tape, which has probably fallen off. If I am correct, they come from your bridge pick-up, which is a humbucking pick-up that has 2 coils wired together in series, and that is the point where the first coil ends and the second one begins, i.e. the point that the two coils are connected together. The reason they do that is so that you can separate the coils later, if you wish, and use one or the other, instead of both together, or wire the two of them out of phase, which will give a cool, kind of hollow sound. If you look at the second image you posted, the wiring diagram, you can see the point where they are wired together and capped, which is at the very bottom of the rectangle that you drew in. You will notice that they come out of a large insulator that has the 4 wires from your bridge pick-up. So, all you need to do is cover them with a piece of electricians tape, or some other suitable insulator, and you should be good to go. They do not need to be connected to anything else. The problem you are having with the neck pick-up not working is probably another issue, perhaps a bad switch, bad connection, etc. Let me know if this all makes sense to you, and post any further questions you have, and I will try to help.
Good luck!
Baxter
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- KVRist
- 93 posts since 4 May, 2013 from USA
I think this is already covered but:
That looks like 2 pickup wires from a humbucker that are the "center" tap and connect the 2 coils. In that case it is perfectly normal to have them connect to each other and nothing else. The point of even exposing that wire is for features like coil splitting or other custom wiring schemes. But if you aren't doing those then it's recommended to cover the metal wire with electrical tape or heat shrink.
That looks like 2 pickup wires from a humbucker that are the "center" tap and connect the 2 coils. In that case it is perfectly normal to have them connect to each other and nothing else. The point of even exposing that wire is for features like coil splitting or other custom wiring schemes. But if you aren't doing those then it's recommended to cover the metal wire with electrical tape or heat shrink.
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- Rad Grandad
- 38041 posts since 6 Sep, 2003 from Downeast Maine
looking closer I agreeaegean wrote:I think this is already covered, didn't read every post but:
That looks like 2 pickup wires from a humbucker that are the "center" tap and connect the 2 coils. In that case it is perfectly normal to have them connect to each other and nothing else. The point of even exposing that wire is for features like coil splitting or other custom wiring schemes. But if you aren't doing those then it's recommended to cover the metal wire with electrical tape or heat shrink.
The highest form of knowledge is empathy, for it requires us to suspend our egos and live in another's world. It requires profound, purpose‐larger‐than‐the‐self kind of understanding.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 5175 posts since 29 Apr, 2006
reading over all of this. thanks a ton guys. I wonder why the neck pickup is not working..
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- Rad Grandad
- 38041 posts since 6 Sep, 2003 from Downeast Maine
got a multi meter?
The highest form of knowledge is empathy, for it requires us to suspend our egos and live in another's world. It requires profound, purpose‐larger‐than‐the‐self kind of understanding.
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- KVRist
- 235 posts since 18 Oct, 2002
Hi again, memyselfandus:
In my experience, it is unusual for a pick-up to just stop working for no reason. They don't have any moving parts, so there is not a lot that can go wrong with them, unless that are hit hard enough. The weakest point in the circuit is usually the switch. There are two things I would try, though the most important thing is to do no harm to your guitar, and if you are not experienced or comfortable doing electrical repairs on your guitar, it is best to take it to a qualified repair person, which could save you a money, headaches and heartaches in the long run.
That being said, the first thing I would try is spraying some contact cleaner on the contact points inside the switch (some people use WD 40 for this, though I prefer the contact cleaner, which any electronics parts house should have. Be sure to clean up any excess, and avoid getting it on the guitars finish.). Then work the switch back and forth several times and see if that fixes the problem. If it doesn't, the next thing I would do is try running a wire from the switch connection for the neck pick-up to the center contact on the volume control, which leads straight to the output jack. That will bypass all of the circuits in between. Then plug the guitar in to the amplifier, place the switch in the neck position and tap the front of the neck pick-up gently (and very carefully!!) with a screwdriver or some other steel object to get it to produce electricity, and hopefully you will hear a tapping or clicking sound coming through the amplifier. If the pick-up still doesn't work, then, the problem could be in the neck tone control somewhere. If that fails, then try checking very carefully for bad connections or short circuits in the neck pick-up wiring. But, if all else fails, a new pick-up may be in order.
Good luck!
Baxter
In my experience, it is unusual for a pick-up to just stop working for no reason. They don't have any moving parts, so there is not a lot that can go wrong with them, unless that are hit hard enough. The weakest point in the circuit is usually the switch. There are two things I would try, though the most important thing is to do no harm to your guitar, and if you are not experienced or comfortable doing electrical repairs on your guitar, it is best to take it to a qualified repair person, which could save you a money, headaches and heartaches in the long run.
That being said, the first thing I would try is spraying some contact cleaner on the contact points inside the switch (some people use WD 40 for this, though I prefer the contact cleaner, which any electronics parts house should have. Be sure to clean up any excess, and avoid getting it on the guitars finish.). Then work the switch back and forth several times and see if that fixes the problem. If it doesn't, the next thing I would do is try running a wire from the switch connection for the neck pick-up to the center contact on the volume control, which leads straight to the output jack. That will bypass all of the circuits in between. Then plug the guitar in to the amplifier, place the switch in the neck position and tap the front of the neck pick-up gently (and very carefully!!) with a screwdriver or some other steel object to get it to produce electricity, and hopefully you will hear a tapping or clicking sound coming through the amplifier. If the pick-up still doesn't work, then, the problem could be in the neck tone control somewhere. If that fails, then try checking very carefully for bad connections or short circuits in the neck pick-up wiring. But, if all else fails, a new pick-up may be in order.
Good luck!
Baxter