Best Antivirus?
- KVRAF
- 5175 posts since 29 Apr, 2006
What do you use?
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- KVRian
- 589 posts since 16 Jun, 2003
I generally use Windows Defender on Windows 8 and haven't had any problems with it. I used to use Avast but it became a bit bloated. I do however keep my browsing very 'safe' on my DAW, so your mileage may vary.
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- KVRAF
- 24411 posts since 7 Jan, 2009 from Croatia
Eset NOD32! The best of the best.
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- KVRian
- 589 posts since 16 Jun, 2003
I used to use that a few years ago, but like Avast, it seemed to start getting a bit bloated. Plus Windows Defender and Avast are free.EvilDragon wrote:Eset NOD32! The best of the best.
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- KVRAF
- 24411 posts since 7 Jan, 2009 from Croatia
Bloated, certainly not. Really low on resources over here.
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- KVRian
- 589 posts since 16 Jun, 2003
Just had a look at the product. I think I had the Smart Security Suite, which has additional modules. I'm not sure how I got to that from the straight AV product, but I know it started to cause issues on my system.
That's just me, everyone is entitled to their own choice.
That's just me, everyone is entitled to their own choice.
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- KVRAF
- 4584 posts since 21 Sep, 2005
Would you take my advice if I used Windows XP? and you were using Windows X7?memyselfandus wrote:What do you use?
If this question was posed on another forum you would be banned for trolling.
But as this is just KVR, you can just give an indignant response. Whilst exposing yourself to be an ignorant person that has not done his homework.
What do I use? What do you care?
If you do not give your Operating System, then people will NOT take you seriously.
It is so easy to lock down your system, but you don't make it easy...
We are here to help you.
Are you just here to test us?
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- KVRAF
- 1796 posts since 4 Sep, 2011 from England
Windows defender has not let anything mess my computer up for two years. It gets updated nearly every day. Uses up a tiny amount of ram compared to the competition.
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- KVRAF
- 4054 posts since 8 Jan, 2005 from Hamilton, New Zealand
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ps. Spoiler alert: Nod32 has the best performance/realworlddetection ratio. MSE lets tons of shit through and is slightly slower. Avira is extremely good as a free alternative.
ps. Spoiler alert: Nod32 has the best performance/realworlddetection ratio. MSE lets tons of shit through and is slightly slower. Avira is extremely good as a free alternative.
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- KVRAF
- 3062 posts since 13 Jul, 2003 from outer rim
Best antivirus is to avoid the user error that results in getting them in the first place.
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- KVRAF
- 4584 posts since 21 Sep, 2005
The best Anti-Virus is Microsoft Security Essentials on some systems.
It is AVAST on others (though not many these days).
It is always a trade off, not just between usability and protection, but between the ability of the particular user to protect their data and their will to do so. Then factor in that MSE runs better on some systems and not so well on others.
For some that know what they are doing and have a bit of computer nouse - it is Comodo Internet Suite.
For others it is PrevX Free, running with MalwareBytes on demand.
For others it is MalwareBytes paid (very cheap and for life) running to scan not just system files, but rogue I.P.s too.
Others use System Hardening with E.M.E.T. by Microsoft, very fast and built into the lowest layers of your OS. Address Space Layout Randomisation. Data Execution Prevention. Structured Exception Handler Overwrite Protection. And a few more.
http://blogs.technet.com/b/security/arc ... olkit.aspx
Can be a bit of a bugger to debug though when things go wrong.
And don't even get into the minefield that is User Account Control.
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-gb/wind ... nt-control
We've told you what we use.
We then asked you what you wanted. And you didn't reply.
It's all good.
It's ok.
I mean, do you think we do this just for the fun of it?
Of course we do.
eh eh.
Hope you found something that works for you memyselfandus.
If not, just ask.
cheers.
It is AVAST on others (though not many these days).
It is always a trade off, not just between usability and protection, but between the ability of the particular user to protect their data and their will to do so. Then factor in that MSE runs better on some systems and not so well on others.
For some that know what they are doing and have a bit of computer nouse - it is Comodo Internet Suite.
For others it is PrevX Free, running with MalwareBytes on demand.
For others it is MalwareBytes paid (very cheap and for life) running to scan not just system files, but rogue I.P.s too.
Others use System Hardening with E.M.E.T. by Microsoft, very fast and built into the lowest layers of your OS. Address Space Layout Randomisation. Data Execution Prevention. Structured Exception Handler Overwrite Protection. And a few more.
http://blogs.technet.com/b/security/arc ... olkit.aspx
Can be a bit of a bugger to debug though when things go wrong.
And don't even get into the minefield that is User Account Control.
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-gb/wind ... nt-control
We've told you what we use.
We then asked you what you wanted. And you didn't reply.
It's all good.
It's ok.
I mean, do you think we do this just for the fun of it?
Of course we do.
eh eh.
Hope you found something that works for you memyselfandus.
If not, just ask.
cheers.
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- KVRAF
- 4584 posts since 21 Sep, 2005
Edit:
Ok, Spurt, that was a lot of big words that you probably just nicked off the Microsoft website.
You know me too well
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Well, I remembered all those names in full and I did read up on all of them too.
But I don't know.
All those things as I see it do one thing:
They are all Buffer Overflow Exception protectors. Or rather they are not. If an exception was flagged then it wouldn't get through. They are more Buffer Overflow Exploits.
These tricks work on the lowest level of your chip. Your script kiddie didn't think it up by himself, but he got told about it and Microsoft took a long time to patch it and you took a whole lot longer to patch it yourself. Your Anti-Virus took even longer
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Whatever, they all exploit how the chip in your computer works. Whether it is from a Buffer Overflow (as old as the hills) or something more specific to your current chip.
E.M.E.T. protects against that and it is the program that people use when you hear people boasting about: "I don't use an Anti-Virus".
It's by Microsoft and it is low-level. You can run it and run your DAW - it won't make a difference.
http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/windows-emet-v3.html
Just do a fresh backup of your install and any data stuff.
Then play. Make sure to really play though, because it might take a while to show up any, not bugs, but shall we say, inconsistencies of your new setup.
After a few weeks, after testing hard and all is good, well.. aren't you the lucky one.
In reality it will probably take a few ironings, but if you only use your Workstation for music as a DAW, then you should be good to go - you can now run without Anti-Virus. All an A/V will do is catch a signature, and slow your system down in the process whilst reading from a known table of bad files - a Blacklist - it will have to check every program that runs to do this - intensive. . Others work by blocking everything and only allowing the files they do know, working from a Whitelist - HIPS.
It will take a while to build this database up and unsurprisingly very few take the time.
I really don't know what is more efficient, and even if I did, someone would disagree with it. I have seen arguments from both camps, some more convincing than others. Anyway, my point was, that you can do away with this kind of stuff. That is Anti-Virus/Anti-Malware.
I suppose in a way, this is even more efficient than running a HIPS (Host Intrusion Prevention System), but a HIPS is a whole lot more lightweight than AV to start with, as it does also work at the lower level. I would imagine that those most paranoid would still run a HIPS and EMET in tandem.
It's whatever you and your system can stand. I push my system and myself to breakdown point sometimes over it. And sometimes I push it over.

Err, I think I just pushed it over there too.. Whoops. Well, rip it to pieces fellas. I started out with good intentions but got confused at the end. Oh well, there just isn't the need for it these days. No one gets any viruses or has their identity stolen and everybody's DAW works just fine.
Eh, humour an old man, if you will
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Ok, Spurt, that was a lot of big words that you probably just nicked off the Microsoft website.
You know me too well
Well, I remembered all those names in full and I did read up on all of them too.
But I don't know.
All those things as I see it do one thing:
They are all Buffer Overflow Exception protectors. Or rather they are not. If an exception was flagged then it wouldn't get through. They are more Buffer Overflow Exploits.
These tricks work on the lowest level of your chip. Your script kiddie didn't think it up by himself, but he got told about it and Microsoft took a long time to patch it and you took a whole lot longer to patch it yourself. Your Anti-Virus took even longer
Whatever, they all exploit how the chip in your computer works. Whether it is from a Buffer Overflow (as old as the hills) or something more specific to your current chip.
E.M.E.T. protects against that and it is the program that people use when you hear people boasting about: "I don't use an Anti-Virus".
It's by Microsoft and it is low-level. You can run it and run your DAW - it won't make a difference.
http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/windows-emet-v3.html
Just do a fresh backup of your install and any data stuff.
Then play. Make sure to really play though, because it might take a while to show up any, not bugs, but shall we say, inconsistencies of your new setup.
After a few weeks, after testing hard and all is good, well.. aren't you the lucky one.
In reality it will probably take a few ironings, but if you only use your Workstation for music as a DAW, then you should be good to go - you can now run without Anti-Virus. All an A/V will do is catch a signature, and slow your system down in the process whilst reading from a known table of bad files - a Blacklist - it will have to check every program that runs to do this - intensive. . Others work by blocking everything and only allowing the files they do know, working from a Whitelist - HIPS.
It will take a while to build this database up and unsurprisingly very few take the time.
I really don't know what is more efficient, and even if I did, someone would disagree with it. I have seen arguments from both camps, some more convincing than others. Anyway, my point was, that you can do away with this kind of stuff. That is Anti-Virus/Anti-Malware.
I suppose in a way, this is even more efficient than running a HIPS (Host Intrusion Prevention System), but a HIPS is a whole lot more lightweight than AV to start with, as it does also work at the lower level. I would imagine that those most paranoid would still run a HIPS and EMET in tandem.
It's whatever you and your system can stand. I push my system and myself to breakdown point sometimes over it. And sometimes I push it over.
Err, I think I just pushed it over there too.. Whoops. Well, rip it to pieces fellas. I started out with good intentions but got confused at the end. Oh well, there just isn't the need for it these days. No one gets any viruses or has their identity stolen and everybody's DAW works just fine.
Eh, humour an old man, if you will
- KVRAF
- 6208 posts since 25 Dec, 2004
eset
definitely
definitely
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some artists i support... https://bandcamp.com/spectraselecta
- KVRAF
- 6208 posts since 25 Dec, 2004
Dude, drinking & posting is not a good idea.codec_spurt wrote:Would you take my advice if I used Windows XP? and you were using Windows X7?memyselfandus wrote:What do you use?
If this question was posed on another forum you would be banned for trolling.
But as this is just KVR, you can just give an indignant response. Whilst exposing yourself to be an ignorant person that has not done his homework.
What do I use? What do you care?
If you do not give your Operating System, then people will NOT take you seriously.
It is so easy to lock down your system, but you don't make it easy...
We are here to help you.
Are you just here to test us?
sketches... http://soundcloud.com/onesnzeros
some artists i support... https://bandcamp.com/spectraselecta
some artists i support... https://bandcamp.com/spectraselecta
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- KVRAF
- 5573 posts since 30 May, 2006 from Hollow Earth
Avila + Comodo and since then never got a problem. NEVER!
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