Do you know some excellent lesser known paid soft synths?

[fluffy_little_something]

I just noticed that I don't have a synth from Somalia, yet

Synths usually come from countries where people have achieved a certain standard of living and are fluent in English as that is required for reading most of the programming and synth literature etc.

If I could support the people with it, I would buy a synth from Somalia immediately. And BTW, Somalia has a GREAT music culture!

I was so happy that I've found Synthmaster which is from Turkey. I thought "finally a synth from Turkey"!

Yes, I was surprised when I first heard of the Döner synth

But really, Synthmaster is so famous by now, it should not even be mentioned in this thread anymore.

[brok landers]

Morphox anyone..?

MorphoX is killer, and for some reason its fanbase is very limited.

Maybe because of the price of $129?

care to explain? you sure don't want to point out that it's too expensive, do you? cause it's rather the opposite...

For this price I can get Massive on the Market Place or a new version of Synthmaster (which I own), so $129 for MorphoX is too much...

then do that. this easy.

[brok landers]

Morphox anyone..?

MorphoX is killer, and for some reason its fanbase is very limited.

Maybe because of the price of $129?

care to explain? you sure don't want to point out that it's too expensive, do you? cause it's rather the opposite...

always the same topic. 'expensive' is not an objective term. for a hobbyist, who needs the earned money to feed a family in the first place and than maybe ... , it is expensive. even in Germoney live people with a low income. for a professional well known studio owner, who buys the plugs in the name of his or her company and who doesn't have to pay tax for it (minus 21%), it is different, of course.

indeed. when do people learn. it's a _very_ capable synth and a _lot_ of work went into it. based on these facts it's priced absolutely reasonably. period. if you can't afford a porsche, you can't own one, that easy. you don't go to the dealer and tell him "i'd take it for half price", and even if you'd dare to (which imo is an affront par exellence), he'd tell you the same as i did. see, if you really want to get it, you could also save up until you actually _can_ afford it. or look for alternatives, there are enough. vote with your wallet. why is it that these days everyone wants everything dumping priced? there's developers that have to live from their work, don't think they earn a golden nose by overpricing stuff, for sure linplug isn't a company of those. you also want to be paid reasonaby for your work and you're for sure complaining, if this isn't the case. and germans, by the way, aren't even half as rich as you might think - i _am_ german, i really know. it's maybe just that most germans (more than some other countries) still kinda value hard work with reasonable money (not that the trend goes into the opposite direction, sadly admitted). maybe _that_ is why we're so "rich" in the end??

but i don't want to derail the thread, so back to topic.

[tanabarbier]

Ok, this going to be totally off topic, sorry in advance.
I totally agree that valuing hard work is the way to go. It is just impossible when you can't even elect your president, and that your country is being run by drug dealers making more money than most countries of the world.
I also agree that you vote with your wallet, and it is absolutly ok to make a product out of reach for 90% of the planet, after all it is the dev personnal decision. But let it be clear that is does have an influence on how the product is percieved, and how it is pirated where those 90% live... My point of view only.
I spent my time teaching with freebies and spreading the word about nice free or cheap plugins, but...

[Tricky-Loops]

why is it that these days everyone wants everything dumping priced? there's developers that have to live from their work, don't think they earn a golden nose by overpricing stuff.

Okay, but then pay the double price for your coffee machine to value the work of the engineers and to enable better wages for the Chinese workers, spend 10.000 € for your vacation because the hotel bosses & airbus companies wants to survive, too, and buy your food for the triple price at the bio market to help the farmers to stop these dumping prices. If you really are THAT consequent - not only regarding software. Then you have to value EVERY product - from your bread to your house!

[brok landers]

why is it that these days everyone wants everything dumping priced? there's developers that have to live from their work, don't think they earn a golden nose by overpricing stuff.

Okay, but then pay the double price for your coffee machine to value the work of the engineers and to enable better wages for the Chinese workers, spend 10.000 € for your vacation because the hotel bosses & airbus companies wants to survive, too, and buy your food for the triple price at the bio market to help the farmers to stop these dumping prices. If you really are THAT consequent - not only regarding software. Then you have to value EVERY product - from your bread to your house!

and that's exactly what i do, to the best of my knowledge and as much my wallet allows that. if i still can't afford it, i, just as i proposed, either save up until i can afford it, or look for alternatives. but certainly not complaining about the price all the time. especially not on software synths, which nearly halfed the price within the last 2 or 3 years anyway...

i can promise you one thing: if we have 2016, and softsynths do cost max 30€, people still complain. heck, they do with iphone apps for 99 cent (but get an iphone for 700€)... wake up, honestly...

[fluffy_little_something]

With something as immaterial as software it is most lucrative for developers to move to developing countries, where the cost of living - the only thing that matters to software developers in terms of money - is very low. Being a developer in places like Switzerland must suck as your bills are numerous and heavy, while you are acting in a global market and thus limited in your pricing.
I remember when TAL introduced their U-NO-LX, a permanent price of 70 dollars was planned, which is a fair price for a Swiss developer. But TAL has made the introductory price of 40 dollars permanent, probably because the global market did not allow the almost double price.

[Ichad.c]

I just noticed that I don't have a synth from Somalia, yet

Synths usually come from countries where people have achieved a certain standard of living and are fluent in English as that is required for reading most of the programming and synth literature etc.

As far as I know - I'm the only developer from Africa. I do agree that English is kinda essential - luckily for my country - we have 11 languages - so everybody can speak English because it's the only dang way that we can understand eachother. Lack of basic education (especially math) has a big part to play, as well as the lack of wide-spead and affordable internet.

just my 2cents.

Andrew

[fluffy_little_something]

Yes, education is also part of the standard of living, Africans still have so many more urgent things to worry about than virtual music instruments and stuff like that.

Africans still lead relatively analog, physical lives, few can afford Internet access and have jumped so deep into the digital world as people in the US or Europe have. I heard that while cell phones are quite common in Africa already, many people only can receive calls because they can't afford to pay for making calls. This must be like driving in an old European city full of one-way streets ^^

[Tricky-Loops]

Yes, education is also part of the standard of living, Africans still have so many more urgent things to worry about than virtual music instruments and stuff like that.

Africans still lead relatively analog, physical lives, few can afford Internet access and have jumped so deep into the digital world as people in the US or Europe have. I heard that while cell phones are quite common in Africa already, many people only can receive calls because they can't afford to pay for making calls. This must be like driving in an old European city full of one-way streets ^^

Africa has 56 countries, and all countries are differently developed. So you cannot say "the usual African" is like this or that...

There are more wealthy countries like Tunisia or South Africa, and there are poor countries like Somalia, Mali, Cote d'Ivoire or Kongo, and all between: There are big, rich cities, and poor hinterlands. Some are driving with their big cars around (like in the USA), others have only a field and a bull (like in India)!

Especially South Africa is - despite all ethnic problems and many languages - quite rich and wealthy...and a magnificent country, if I could I would live there...

[fluffy_little_something]

I did not say that all Africans are this or that. But, unfortunately, what I wrote still applies to the vast majority of Africans, regardless of the small elites.

[Tricky-Loops]

I did not say that all Africans are this or that. But, unfortunately, what I wrote still applies to the vast majority of Africans, regardless of the small elites.

The unemployment rate in Spain is higher than in South Africa...

[ouroboros]

Today at KVR I learned Germany is just like Texas. Hard working conscientious middle class Europeans suffer because of dishonest, lazy Mexicans. Pack your bags, errrbody.

Voting with the wallet is fine as long as everybody has a wallet.
It seems like everyone should have the opportunity to have gainful employment and even buy plugs, but sadly, that isn't the case: not everywhere has access to the same economies. This discussion draws out the global inequalities we are otherwise free to ignore in our individual locales. Thank you internet.

[fluffy_little_something]

What does that have to do with anything?

Apart from that South Africa (and to a certain extent its neighbors) is an exception among African countries, it is still way ahead of more or less all other African countries, which of course has historical reasons.
Look at this map showing the Human Development Index:
http://jepoirrierdotorg.files.wordpress ... di-map.png

But I guess we are a bit off-topic

[fluffy_little_something]

Today at KVR I learned Germany is just like Texas. Hard working conscientious middle class Europeans suffer because of dishonest, lazy Mexicans. Pack your bags, errrbody.

What a pile of crap...