KVR Audio

sa3atsky · Post by **sa3atsky** » Sun May 19, 2013 1:34 pm

Dear all,

Please tell me my best options for the following setup.

I have a Casio 88key USB keyboard and a infrasonic m49 controller
I'm planning on having a pc with a simple I/O and midi interface for the sole purpose of performing live.
It's going to have the keyboards hooked to it and I am looking for the best , simplest DAW for this application
I'm looking to:

Use different VSTs using my keyboard (Kontakt, Albino, Moog Modular etc)
Assigning different midi functions for launching a VST, changing a preset etc

I have Cubase 6, but simply can't see it as the ideal live setup due to its complexity and lack of these features,, would love someone to correct me if I'm wrong.

Is there a DAW solely designed for this application? Appreciate any ideas, suggestions, input

Spiritos · Post by **Spiritos** » Sun May 19, 2013 2:08 pm

The most obvious answer would be Ableton's Live as it is primairily designed for live performances. Maybe you can pick up an old version on e-bay or so for 50 euros.

You talk about MIDI-learn. If you have standalone applications I think you can assign any parameter you want to your MIDI-controllers so no need for a DAW then.

Also you day Cubase lacks these features. I'm not sure what feautues you're talking about really.

jonnyG · Post by **jonnyG** » Sun May 19, 2013 2:44 pm

Ableton Live? A bit overkill and expensive in full-fat form imo.

Plogue's Bidule might well be worth a look. A modular host with plenty of opportunity to build our own routing / switching / morphing thingers. Reasonably priced and proven stable enough for live use.

ZenPunkHippy · Post by **ZenPunkHippy** » Sun May 19, 2013 2:49 pm

Check out Brainspawn Forte, it's made for live performance:

http://www.brainspawn.com/go/forte/

e.g. scenes containing a specific instrument + preset can be recalled instantly. The performer edition is much cheaper than the producer edition.

Cantabile is another possibility:

http://cantabilesoftware.com/

Peace,
Andy.

hma · Post by **hma** » Sun May 19, 2013 3:15 pm

Bidule is perfect for this.

allofdrab · Post by **allofdrab** » Sun May 19, 2013 5:28 pm

+1 for Bidule. The way to go (imo) for any creative MIDI, OSC, and audio (plugins or otherwise) routing. The (seemingly perpetual) beta version (the standalone ver. available in the downloads section) is free to try/use till it expires and the next beta version comes out, which with the current beta won't be till mid August. This standalone version is fully functional. It's exactly the same as the plugin version of Bidule, but you'll have to purchase a licence to have access to that (the plugin version). Purchasing a licence also gets rid of the standalone beta's only restriction (it expiring 3 months after it's release), and also encourages further development - of course. I've used/owned Bidule for about 8 years for all manner of purposes. It's the handiest app/plugin I own. If you give Bidule a whirl, and have any questions related to finding your way around it, feel free to shoot me a message. Or, of course, post them here or in the Plogue/Bidule forum. I'm planning to run some workshops this summer on using Bidule, and could use the practice helping people figure it out

Anywhoooo here's the link if you're interested: www.plogue.com/bidule

sa3atsky · Post by **sa3atsky** » Sun May 19, 2013 7:38 pm

allofdrab wrote:+1 for Bidule. The way to go (imo) for any creative MIDI, OSC, and audio (plugins or otherwise) routing. The (seemingly perpetual) beta version (the standalone ver. available in the downloads section) is free to try/use till it expires and the next beta version comes out, which with the current beta won't be till mid August. This standalone version is fully functional. It's exactly the same as the plugin version of Bidule, but you'll have to purchase a licence to have access to that (the plugin version). Purchasing a licence also gets rid of the standalone beta's only restriction (it expiring 3 months after it's release), and also encourages further development - of course. I've used/owned Bidule for about 8 years for all manner of purposes. It's the handiest app/plugin I own. If you give Bidule a whirl, and have any questions related to finding your way around it, feel free to shoot me a message. Or, of course, post them here or in the Plogue/Bidule forum. I'm planning to run some workshops this summer on using Bidule, and could use the practice helping people figure it out Anywhoooo here's the link if you're interested: www.plogue.com/bidule

And thats why I love KVR so much, thanks for the help. I've tried Bidule before and loved the Minimal modular interface. Going to give it a try again and see how much further its developed. Any idea where to find a crash course online?

jonnyG · Post by **jonnyG** » Sun May 19, 2013 8:32 pm

sa3atsky wrote:
allofdrab wrote:+1 for Bidule. The way to go (imo) for any creative MIDI, OSC, and audio (plugins or otherwise) routing. The (seemingly perpetual) beta version (the standalone ver. available in the downloads section) is free to try/use till it expires and the next beta version comes out, which with the current beta won't be till mid August. This standalone version is fully functional. It's exactly the same as the plugin version of Bidule, but you'll have to purchase a licence to have access to that (the plugin version). Purchasing a licence also gets rid of the standalone beta's only restriction (it expiring 3 months after it's release), and also encourages further development - of course. I've used/owned Bidule for about 8 years for all manner of purposes. It's the handiest app/plugin I own. If you give Bidule a whirl, and have any questions related to finding your way around it, feel free to shoot me a message. Or, of course, post them here or in the Plogue/Bidule forum. I'm planning to run some workshops this summer on using Bidule, and could use the practice helping people figure it out Anywhoooo here's the link if you're interested: www.plogue.com/bidule
And thats why I love KVR so much, thanks for the help. I've tried Bidule before and loved the Minimal modular interface. Going to give it a try again and see how much further its developed. Any idea where to find a crash course online?

Possibly the one weak spot with Bidule is the relative lack of documentation, but I'd suggest joining their userforum at http://www.plogue.com/phpBB2/index.php and just asking - they're a friendly and helpful bunch - and the developers have a regular presence too.

Will look forward to seeing you there.

Kaboom75 · Post by **Kaboom75** » Sat May 25, 2013 11:59 am

Ableton Live 9 Standard is all you need comes with an EQ and bus compressor from Cytomic.

Robmobius · Post by **Robmobius** » Sat May 25, 2013 2:05 pm

I don't use Ableton myself but it's really been designed for it. You also don't have to get the full suite if you don't need all the bell and whistles.

Best DAW for live VST setup