KVR Audio

additiveboy · Post by **additiveboy** » Wed May 22, 2013 9:22 am

Hello!

I am looking for something very similar to kawai k5000. I need digital, but warm pads for ambient-industrial-ebm...

I've tried razor but is very cold. Harmor is good but is not similar. Alchemy is near but...

A examples for a Im looking for

Thank you and sorry my english

hollo · Post by **hollo** » Wed May 22, 2013 9:44 am

Shameless self promo but i guess you'll find warm enough:

Warm pads was my main intention in these soundsets.

Cheers

Lotuzia · Post by **Lotuzia** » Wed May 22, 2013 10:04 am

My vote would go to Sches Diversion

Some Pads and keys examples in this video

Also this brief audio demo

Cinemantic Diversion

synaesthesia · Post by **synaesthesia** » Wed May 22, 2013 10:13 am

I reckon you get those sounds with most popular softsynths. Zebra is indeed an obvious choice, but the likes of Absynth, Omnisphere, FM8 and Massive could do it, with the right programming.

Both Hollo and Lotuzia make lovely sounds, and you could do a lot worse than buy some stuff from them!

However... I can't not mention the fact that I'm releasing a soundset for Massive on Friday with exactly this kind of sound in mind. See this thread of mine: www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=382614

Buy all three lots of sounds and you'll have lovely synth noises to keep you going till Christmas!

Kaboom75 · Post by **Kaboom75** » Wed May 22, 2013 11:51 am

DIVA's JP-8000 module upgrade next month could be what you're looking for. If you need it now Zebra HZ.

Here's All the U-he commercial preset packs to give you an idea of the amount of different sounds available for Zebra http://www.u-he.com/PatchLib/commercial.html

core · Post by **core** » Wed May 22, 2013 12:00 pm

hollo wrote:Shameless self promo but i guess you'll find warm enough:

Warm pads was my main intention in these soundsets.

Cheers

+1 for Hollo's sounds, check my review of the first Padsheaven at http://rekkerd.org/review-joseph-hollos ... for-zebra/
Most excellent pads in this set.

Nielzie · Post by **Nielzie** » Wed May 22, 2013 12:03 pm

Sylenth1 would be my choice for such sounds. It can do "warm" and i find it easy and pleasant to use.

Lots of tutorials for it too on youtube, if you can't find a good starting point in its huge factory presets library.

Also lots and lots of soundbanks availabe (both commercial and free) on the net.

Ingonator · Post by **Ingonator** » Wed May 22, 2013 12:11 pm

Waldorf PPG Wave 3.V could deliver some amazing results. The PPG filter is based on a model of an analog filter and could create some amazing results based on the tons of wavetables. The filter is totally different to the other Waldorf filters in e.g. Largo.

If found second hand Camel Audio Cameleon 5000 could be a nice choice too. Additionally to the additive engine it got a formant filter and some other filter modes too.

Another very good "digital but warm" choice could be the Korg Wavestation plugin.

Ingo

DevonB · Post by **DevonB** » Wed May 22, 2013 12:28 pm

additiveboy wrote:Hello!

I am looking for something very similar to kawai k5000. I need digital, but

Good luck on your quest for K5000S/R/W sounds. As you've seen, it still hasn't been emulated to the level of detail the K5000 offered in 1996. The sounds you posted remind me of a few other pieces of hardware that run fairly cheap these days as well; Korg TR Rack (the old Trinity in a rack space, which run about $200ish), or Korg NS5R which run about $100ish. The Yamaha TG77 also did this stuff very well and there are literally THOUSANDS and THOUSANDS of premade patches out there for it. They run about $250-$300. Pull up some YouTube videos to check for yourself on all the above.

The Zebra Padsheaven also sounds very very good. I'm very impressed by the youtube video demos. Zebra in the right hands sounds very good. There's only been a very small handful of patch programmers for Zebra that I've been impressed with.

Devon

additiveboy · Post by **additiveboy** » Wed May 22, 2013 4:43 pm

thanks for all!

I don't like zebra... sorry but the sound is very thin (for me).
The massive patches sounds very well.
Something similar to kawai k5000 in hardware today? in soft is difficult to find similar sounds.

additiveboy · Post by **additiveboy** » Wed May 22, 2013 4:49 pm

Ingonator wrote:Waldorf PPG Wave 3.V could deliver some amazing results. The PPG filter is based on a model of an analog filter and could create some amazing results based on the tons of wavetables. The filter is totally different to the other Waldorf filters in e.g. Largo.

If found second hand Camel Audio Cameleon 5000 could be a nice choice too. Additionally to the additive engine it got a formant filter and some other filter modes too.

Another very good "digital but warm" choice could be the Korg Wavestation plugin.

Ingo

i will try ppg wave. the cameleon is the previous version of alchemy? sounds similar?

I like wavestation, i've a korg kronos

thanks

fluffy_little_something · Wed May 22, 2013 5:22 pm

Just turn down the cutoff frequency and any old VA will do

And please don't make such suicidal music yourself...

Ingonator · Post by **Ingonator** » Wed May 22, 2013 6:21 pm

additiveboy wrote:
Ingonator wrote:Waldorf PPG Wave 3.V could deliver some amazing results. The PPG filter is based on a model of an analog filter and could create some amazing results based on the tons of wavetables. The filter is totally different to the other Waldorf filters in e.g. Largo.

If found second hand Camel Audio Cameleon 5000 could be a nice choice too. Additionally to the additive engine it got a formant filter and some other filter modes too.

Another very good "digital but warm" choice could be the Korg Wavestation plugin.

Ingo
i will try ppg wave. the cameleon is the previous version of alchemy? sounds similar?

I like wavestation, i've a korg kronos

thanks

The PPG Wave 3.V is one of my favorite synths. I had participated in Beta testing and the factory sounds and also got a commercial bank for it (see my signature).

With the Wavestation i am "in love" for a long time. In the past (around 2004) i had the EX, S/R and A/D versions. Currently i have the Wavestation EX and the plugin versin from the Legacy Collection Digital Edition. Now Korg is selling the plugins separately.

Cameleon 5000 is focused on additive synthesis and the predecessor of Alchemy indeed and i upgraded to Alchemy from it. Anyway for additive sounds i still prefer Cameleon. It also got a formant filter and another filter. Alchemy could reproduce most sounds of Cameleon but besides some features the interface is quite different too.

Ingo

AstralExistence · Post by **AstralExistence** » Wed May 22, 2013 6:29 pm

fluffy_little_something wrote:Just turn down the cutoff frequency and any old VA will do

And please don't make such suicidal music yourself...

because jesus would not approve? tell that to suicide commando or sitd. im sure they would disagree.

Neon Breath · Post by **Neon Breath** » Wed May 22, 2013 6:47 pm

Additive synthesis can easily sound cold and digital. So what about going the granular way then? It's up to the user to feed it with, well 'warm' samples.

Padshop Pro
Granite

Warm digital synth