Cakewalk Rapture

[snigelx]

fr4ncesco is being modest I see he also has a NEW set of patches (actually an entire expansion with EGs, LFO's, waves etc) which are on sale during the CW sale. Definitely a no-brainer after hearing his work on Muz3um.
http://fisound.com/product/universal-120/

actually that set is already two years old, but a few months ago we released a free bonus pack with more than 200 new programs

of course I'm biased, but I think Uni120 is a pretty good set

completely different from Muz3um, it uses also a lot of sfz multisamples
with instruments such as guitar, electric and acoustic piano, percussions,
which are then processed both offline with various tools (granular, convolution, lofi plugins) and online with Rapture's onboard dsp section

the results is some kind of electro-acoustic hybrid, quite cinematic feeling in my opinion

Interesting results! I like a lot of the old ones but they need some taming in a full mix. I definitely hear some usable stuff in version 1 of the pack. I am glad I got it because there's a lot of template type patches in there to learn to program the synth and sfz (which is quite a new thing to me) - I am used to programing WT synths the Waldorf way via PW and EG I am not sure how this is implemented in Rapture. I will just have to experiment with it. Version 2 update of your pack is quite nice. I definitely hear that skills have developed. Also appreciate all the nice module presets and extensive info about the included LFO waves pitch response in the included pdf. Great job. I'm happy to donate for all your (all of you involved) work. Where can one find more documentation pertaining to programming the synth using WT? Thanks for any info

[snigelx]

Anyone own the Galbanum Picis expansion? How is this?

[scook]

Anyone own the Galbanum Picis expansion? How is this?

Pad city, I like it a lot. One thing to keep in mind with the larger 3rd party expansion packs, Rapture allows 80 user defined LFOs. Pisces fills up all the slots. If you also want to use U120, it too fills up all the LFO slots. That means you will either be swapping out LFO directories to run one set of patches or the other. Alternately one set of patches will sound different because they are now using a different set of LFOs. This also means the large expansion packs will want any space used by smaller packs too, so you end up with a couple of LFO directories and some decisions to make.

[snigelx]

I am not surprised about the pads part, being that they are involved in one of the most creative reverb units on the market Thanks for the warning about the LFOs, that rings a bell...I think it was in the manual somewhere and I ran into trouble already with the Flex multisamples when I installed U120 I just renamed those, but now I see I will ahve to move them back out of the folder to avoid program mismatchings. Could be interesting results as well Thanks for the info. Do you own the Architecture waveforms as well? Is this worth to own? Seems like an endless array of timbres on offer by the description. I mean 32-bit single-cycle wavs can be used in several pieces of software.

[musikmachine]

i just fired up Rapture but it changes the system sample rate to 44.1khz and i have everything at 48khz so how do i change it, the sample rate is greyed out in my soundcards control panel.

I am glad you ask this, Rapture's Microhost was changing my sample rate to 48000 and I run everything else at 44100. So I did a little digging around. If you are running Windows, the sample rate for Cakewalk synths running microHost is stored in the registry; for Rapture HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cakewalk Music Software\microHost\Rapture keyword SampleRate. I just changed mine to 44100 and it works fine. BTW, if you do not have a SampleRate entry, create it as a DWORD.

Thanks. Weird that it sets the rate opposite for both of us, awkward bugger!

It's a bit strange not having a samplerate option though and having to add your own in the registry; do i add 32bit or 64bit value??

[fr4ncesco]

I am used to programing WT synths the Waldorf way via PW and EG I am not sure how this is implemented in Rapture

Rapture does not implement wavescanning, as you can do for example with the Waldorf synths

[snigelx]

I am used to programing WT synths the Waldorf way via PW and EG I am not sure how this is implemented in Rapture

Rapture does not implement wavescanning, as you can do for example with the Waldorf synths

I see. So basically, what I am getting is that it relies on these EG crossfades..and other modulators which are stepping through the wave. But I am not noticing that Phase parameter is having any kind of effect on moving through the phase of the loaded waveform while I am holding a key. Ah, oh well, I will just try to reverse-engineer some of your patches tomorrow. I'm sure to learn something from that.

[scook]

Thanks. Weird that it sets the rate opposite for both of us, awkward bugger!

It's a bit strange not having a samplerate option though and having to add your own in the registry; do i add 32bit or 64bit value??

Agreed

Use 32bit, I thought 64bit was QWORD. You know, now that I think about it, I imagine the default is 44100 and no SampleRate keyword is setup. I do not know how mine got created and set to 48000. It might have been when I moved Rapture from my old machine. My new machine had Windows sound set to 48000, maybe that did it. I have been using Rapture since it was released.

The microhost was a bit of an afterthought. IIRC, neither DimPro or Rapture originally delivered standalone executables. I remember using SAVIHost.

[musikmachine]

Thanks. Weird that it sets the rate opposite for both of us, awkward bugger!

It's a bit strange not having a samplerate option though and having to add your own in the registry; do i add 32bit or 64bit value??

Agreed

Use 32bit, I thought 64bit was QWORD. You know, now that I think about it, I imagine the default is 44100 and no SampleRate keyword is setup. I do not know how mine got created and set to 48000. It might have been when I moved Rapture from my old machine. I have been using Rapture since it was released.

The microhost was a bit of an afterthought. IIRC, neither DimPro or Rapture originally delivered standalone executables. I remember using SAVIHost.

Ah yes, did not see that. I had to create a DWORD so under modify data do i just enter 48000? Thanks again.

[scook]

. I had to create a DWORD so under modify data do i just enter 48000? Thanks again.

Yes, click the decimal radio button and 48000 for the value.

[musikmachine]

. I had to create a DWORD so under modify data do i just enter 48000? Thanks again.

Yes, click the decimal radio button and 48000 for the value.

Thankyou!

[scook]

Do you own the Architecture waveforms as well? Is this worth to own? Seems like an endless array of timbres on offer by the description. I mean 32-bit single-cycle wavs can be used in several pieces of software.

Yes, I bought the Architecture Waveforms Cakewalk Edition when it came out. Really have not done much with them. Maybe it was just too much to deal with but I never went back to them. I really like they way Universal 120 is documented. It makes me want to revisit Rapture programming. There is just so much to learn between this, other synths and effects that I have a difficult time sitting down and really digging deep into anything. BTW, if you want in depth info on Rapture, DimPro and sfz programming, you might consider Simon Cann's book "Cakewalk Synthesizers." Oh, one more thing, I do not own Second Coming (maybe when it goes on super sale I will think about it).

[snigelx]

Do you own the Architecture waveforms as well? Is this worth to own? Seems like an endless array of timbres on offer by the description. I mean 32-bit single-cycle wavs can be used in several pieces of software.

Yes, I bought the Architecture Waveforms Cakewalk Edition when it came out. Really have not done much with them. Maybe it was just too much to deal with but I never went back to them. I really like they way Universal 120 is documented. It makes me want to revisit Rapture programming. There is just so much to learn between this, other synths and effects that I have a difficult time sitting down and really digging deep into anything. BTW, if you want in depth info on Rapture, DimPro and sfz programming, you might consider Simon Cann's book "Cakewalk Synthesizers." Oh, one more thing, I do not own Second Coming (maybe when it goes on super sale I will think about it).

Thanks for the info scook. I understand getting bogged down with other instruments etc. You just have to set time aside for one and attack it hard under that period. Usually you can learn tonnes about a synth during a month-long period of focus and research..then you can truly feel you've added that one to your arsenal. I find Rapture's programming method intriguing compared to what I am used to. Making the "elements" work together seems quite similar to making FM elements work together in an FM synth through the clever use and interoperation of envelopes and other modulation source. I'm sure I can apply some of that knowledge later when I get deeper. I plan to read some chapters from Cakewalk Synthesizers 2nd Ed today at work, btw. I just signed up for a 10-day free trial with safaribooksonline.com and they have a digital edition of Cakewalk Synthesizers 2nd Ed. - I'm pretty sure I can digest the content in well under 10 days. There's also an Android/iPhone app so one can read offline. So if you are interested to read that book too, it's out there. Just sign up for that free trial. Anyway, what is this "Second Coming" you refer to. Did you mean "Perfect Storm" ? Cheers

[scook]

Anyway, what is this "Second Coming" you refer to. Did you mean "Perfect Storm" ? Cheers

I have the first edition of Cann's book in hard copy. Bought it when it first came out. "Second Coming" is the second Galbanum Rapture expansion pack http://www.galbanum.com/products/secondcoming/

[Batarini]

Thanks. Weird that it sets the rate opposite for both of us, awkward bugger!

It's a bit strange not having a samplerate option though and having to add your own in the registry; do i add 32bit or 64bit value??

Agreed

Use 32bit, I thought 64bit was QWORD. You know, now that I think about it, I imagine the default is 44100 and no SampleRate keyword is setup. I do not know how mine got created and set to 48000. It might have been when I moved Rapture from my old machine. I have been using Rapture since it was released.

The microhost was a bit of an afterthought. IIRC, neither DimPro or Rapture originally delivered standalone executables. I remember using SAVIHost.

Ah yes, did not see that. I had to create a DWORD so under modify data do i just enter 48000? Thanks again.

Hi there,

I have to admit that I'm a bit lost in terms of H-Key and QWORDS... but I have the same problem with the Sampling Rate in both Z3TA and Rapture. But I also love them both. Would you guys help me get that fixed? Think of a guy that did not study IT please.

I'd mega-appreciate!