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Is there certain scales i should be using? should i be constructing them in a certain way?
please get back as soon as possible. thanks guys!!
Hardwell & Nicky Romero type bass melodys?
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- KVRer
- 4 posts since 21 Apr, 2013
Hey guys im just new to the KVR forum. I have been producing Dirty Dutch for about a year now and use Logic Pro 9. I feel like i want to switch my style a bit. I love the melodys that are played in all nicky romero and hardwell songs and would love to be able to create melody's like the following with hard hitting bass sounds;
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Is there certain scales i should be using? should i be constructing them in a certain way?
please get back as soon as possible. thanks guys!!
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Is there certain scales i should be using? should i be constructing them in a certain way?
please get back as soon as possible. thanks guys!!
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- KVRian
- 880 posts since 26 Oct, 2011
Here's the formula:
You jam a catchy melodic line with a midi keyboard or something along those lines. Either you have a pre-designed or pre-set sound as well or you don't, each approach has significant differences. What may sound cool with plucks may sound lame with supersaws that have a little attack.
Then you build up all the other elements around it so the end result would be a point of threshold where the energy of your track is released and it's the "drop" of the track which sweeps across the dancefloor. And after that, you go to the beginning of your track and slowly start adding these elements and so forth, until you reach that point.
And obviously, just like all the other tracks, you must follow the "intro > buildup > breakdown / drop > 2nd buildup > breakdown/drop > outro" scheme with as little variations as possible, so that your dear music-lover fans won't be hit by any big surprises in your tracks! I mean, for the love of the god, what if suddenly horns appeared out of nowhere in the middle of the track without first a small peek during the passive parts?
Also, remember, forget the scales and stuff, just have a catchy melodic line and have chords to go with that melodic line. Even better, build the chords first, then the melody over it, if you don't have keyboard!
And anyway, who cares about all that music theory yaddayadda, when it's all in the energy? You create feelings with plugins! Want tension? Run that synth with portamento across the frequency spectrum! Wait! Do you have too much tension? Add some silence and open the filters meanwhile! There's that cadence! Now you want drama? Chorus for the chords! Wait, how about that energy we talked about? No problems, just sidechain your bass! Second buildup and you don't want tension because the people are in the mood? White noise, slowly but surely! Ears are starting to bleed? It's time to release it and filter it slowly to zero! Oh and that's where the drop comes in as well!
Yes, I'm sort of being comical here, but when I started, I was just as eager as you. Ironically, "Spaceman" was one of the tracks that interested me.
Trust me, when I say that most of that comedy I represented to you was actually reality and it's really bland as that. Most of electro house is within the same frame and most of the artists just have a catchy "signature sound" that rides on their different melodies and then they inspire a lot of people to try out producing music.
If you're interested in music, you'll find out quickly that stuff like that is actually boring in terms of music. Most EDM is boring in terms of music theory as well (not just mainstream EDM), but let's not get into that. If you want to be a mainstage electro house artist, that comical "guideline" is not far enough away from the reality, unfortunately. A lot of their creativity is just about one catchy melody, a signature sound and endless amount of time spent to maximize the heck out of everything and statistically, you're just wasting your time to learn all that.
Check this out. Don't just give it a thought and make a decision. Keep it there, back in your mind, let it either creep or fade out completely.
http://on.aol.com/video/mobys-advice-to ... -294373674
Hopefully this helps. I sort of did give you some input even on your original question.
You jam a catchy melodic line with a midi keyboard or something along those lines. Either you have a pre-designed or pre-set sound as well or you don't, each approach has significant differences. What may sound cool with plucks may sound lame with supersaws that have a little attack.
Then you build up all the other elements around it so the end result would be a point of threshold where the energy of your track is released and it's the "drop" of the track which sweeps across the dancefloor. And after that, you go to the beginning of your track and slowly start adding these elements and so forth, until you reach that point.
And obviously, just like all the other tracks, you must follow the "intro > buildup > breakdown / drop > 2nd buildup > breakdown/drop > outro" scheme with as little variations as possible, so that your dear music-lover fans won't be hit by any big surprises in your tracks! I mean, for the love of the god, what if suddenly horns appeared out of nowhere in the middle of the track without first a small peek during the passive parts?
Also, remember, forget the scales and stuff, just have a catchy melodic line and have chords to go with that melodic line. Even better, build the chords first, then the melody over it, if you don't have keyboard!
And anyway, who cares about all that music theory yaddayadda, when it's all in the energy? You create feelings with plugins! Want tension? Run that synth with portamento across the frequency spectrum! Wait! Do you have too much tension? Add some silence and open the filters meanwhile! There's that cadence! Now you want drama? Chorus for the chords! Wait, how about that energy we talked about? No problems, just sidechain your bass! Second buildup and you don't want tension because the people are in the mood? White noise, slowly but surely! Ears are starting to bleed? It's time to release it and filter it slowly to zero! Oh and that's where the drop comes in as well!
Yes, I'm sort of being comical here, but when I started, I was just as eager as you. Ironically, "Spaceman" was one of the tracks that interested me.
Trust me, when I say that most of that comedy I represented to you was actually reality and it's really bland as that. Most of electro house is within the same frame and most of the artists just have a catchy "signature sound" that rides on their different melodies and then they inspire a lot of people to try out producing music.
If you're interested in music, you'll find out quickly that stuff like that is actually boring in terms of music. Most EDM is boring in terms of music theory as well (not just mainstream EDM), but let's not get into that. If you want to be a mainstage electro house artist, that comical "guideline" is not far enough away from the reality, unfortunately. A lot of their creativity is just about one catchy melody, a signature sound and endless amount of time spent to maximize the heck out of everything and statistically, you're just wasting your time to learn all that.
Check this out. Don't just give it a thought and make a decision. Keep it there, back in your mind, let it either creep or fade out completely.
http://on.aol.com/video/mobys-advice-to ... -294373674
Hopefully this helps. I sort of did give you some input even on your original question.