Yah I imagine you could create a cool FX chain with this + sonic charge bitspeek for Speak & Spell style FX.sinkmusic wrote:Nice pugin, David.
I'd be curious to try the Speak & Spell Ir's
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- KVRAF
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The speak and spell DAC is also there (LPC-10) as well as the IR (SnS)!V0RT3X wrote:Yah I imagine you could create a cool FX chain with this + sonic charge bitspeek for Speak & Spell style FX.sinkmusic wrote:Nice pugin, David.
I'd be curious to try the Speak & Spell Ir's
..and it works well on monophonic stuff as far as I messed around with so far.
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Its the EU VAT thing which makes the biggest difference, share*it is a EU based company, so they need to charge it (we certainly don't see that money)). if you have a VAT id, you can deduce the extra no?sinkmusic wrote: So, isn't the Shareit price accurate ?
I checked today, and the price was 39€, which is roughly 52$
Is there a "secret beta buy link" or something ?
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Funny anecdote is that (as you can see from the first teaser video at NAMM 2011 (January 2011 - ugh 2.5 years ago) I had implemented LPC-10 before I actually heard about BitSpeek... And went ... uh oh!3ee wrote: The speak and spell DAC is also there (LPC-10) as well as the IR (SnS)!
..and it works well on monophonic stuff as far as I messed around with so far.
I only have praises for what Sonic Charge does, and Permut8 is also a brilliant concept.
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OMG!!! the PWM and PDM are lovely
if one gets how to use them.
and of course, watch those ears and speakers!
PWM - if copy is set to 2, there won't be any more "death tone" and the resample gets practically usable. (Don't accidentally set copy to 1 if the resample rate is set to less than about 20K, or you'll simply blow up!
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PDM - Set RC filter to 1000 Hz
DPCM - the mode kinda forces you to set the bit depth to 6 bit to act "normal" ...if you didn't noticed the d.bit parameter (~last one to the right of DAC area) so you can set the bit depth to higher values if you wish and compensate with the d.bit parameter to fine-tune crunchiness.
Have to read the manual.
and of course, watch those ears and speakers!
PWM - if copy is set to 2, there won't be any more "death tone" and the resample gets practically usable. (Don't accidentally set copy to 1 if the resample rate is set to less than about 20K, or you'll simply blow up!
PDM - Set RC filter to 1000 Hz
DPCM - the mode kinda forces you to set the bit depth to 6 bit to act "normal" ...if you didn't noticed the d.bit parameter (~last one to the right of DAC area) so you can set the bit depth to higher values if you wish and compensate with the d.bit parameter to fine-tune crunchiness.
Have to read the manual.
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- 928 posts since 3 Aug, 2001 from Montreal
Indeed! When there is no copy, you get essentially the lo-fi SoftDAC algorithm that some apps on Apple II used to play samples out of the 1-bit speaker output.3ee wrote:OMG!!! the PWM and PDM are lovelyif one gets how to use them.
and of course, watch those ears and speakers!
PWM - if copy is set to 2, there won't be any more "death tone" and the resample gets practically usable. (Don't accidentally set copy to 1 if the resample rate is set to less than about 20K, or you'll simply blow up!)
Then by MJ Mahon 'invented' (though Access software's 'RealSound' probably had prior art on that, and Microsoft's SPEAK.EXE driver) this duplication twist to get rid of that very audible carrier wav with 'DAC522', which he uses for his Apple Synthesizer (which 8 Bit Weapon uses and sell a custom version of here http://www.8bitweapon.com/store.htm)
And/Or use a good heavy impulse (or two if you use two instances of chipcrusher),3ee wrote: PDM - Set RC filter to 1000 Hz
say an AMIGA Filter -> AMIGA Monitor
You are doing pretty good without3ee wrote: DPCM - the mode kinda forces you to set the bit depth to 6 bit to act "normal" ...if you didn't noticed the d.bit parameter (~last one to the right of DAC area) so you can set the bit depth to higher values if you wish and compensate with the d.bit parameter to fine-tune crunchiness.
Have to read the manual.
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OK, found out something that's a potential bug.
[EDIT: apparently, this isn't a bug]
All the encoding algos take about 10-12% CPU through my 512-samples buffer ASIO on my system.
with one big exception!
the PWM takes a whooping 36-37%, seems to go down with the number of selected bits (16% @ 4bits) but still...
Is there something probably left to optimize or the algo is really that CPU heavy?
[EDIT: apparently, this isn't a bug]
All the encoding algos take about 10-12% CPU through my 512-samples buffer ASIO on my system.
with one big exception!
the PWM takes a whooping 36-37%, seems to go down with the number of selected bits (16% @ 4bits) but still...
Is there something probably left to optimize or the algo is really that CPU heavy?
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David,
couple of feature requests if I may:
1 - many of the BG noises have harmonic content in them (like hum)
would be great if we can be able to tune them. Would you consider a +/- 12 semitones parameter within the BG noise area? or at least a +/- 5 or 7 st. ?
2 - not that important but I almost remember someone requesting for other Plogue stuff. Most of the preset switching arrows are too small.
3 - Possibility to fine-tune adjust parameters (at least the Re-sample one) (may I suggest shift + click-drag)
couple of feature requests if I may:
1 - many of the BG noises have harmonic content in them (like hum)
would be great if we can be able to tune them. Would you consider a +/- 12 semitones parameter within the BG noise area? or at least a +/- 5 or 7 st. ?
2 - not that important but I almost remember someone requesting for other Plogue stuff. Most of the preset switching arrows are too small.
3 - Possibility to fine-tune adjust parameters (at least the Re-sample one) (may I suggest shift + click-drag)
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I agree, ability to work with background sound characteristics It would be good addition (also thought about it).3ee wrote:David,
couple of feature requests if I may:
1 - many of the BG noises have harmonic content in them (like hum)
would be great if we can be able to tune them. Would you consider a +/- 12 semitones parameter within the BG noise area? or at least a +/- 5 or 7 st. ?
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- KVRian
- 928 posts since 3 Aug, 2001 from Montreal
Unless I reduce the over/down sampling quality which will add "unwanted" grit :3ee wrote:OK, found out something that's a potential bug.(...)
with one big exception!
the PWM takes a whooping 36-37%, seems to go down with the number of selected bits (16% @ 4bits) but still...
Is there something probably left to optimize or the algo is really that CPU heavy?
the PWM encoding runs a 1bit stream potentially in the multi-MHz range, and I must deal with proper up/downsampling...
Its unique sounding but that comes with a cost.
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All of these makes sense and are easy to add.3ee wrote:David,
couple of feature requests if I may:
1 - many of the BG noises have harmonic content in them (like hum)
would be great if we can be able to tune them. Would you consider a +/- 12 semitones parameter within the BG noise area? or at least a +/- 5 or 7 st. ?
2 - not that important but I almost remember someone requesting for other Plogue stuff. Most of the preset switching arrows are too small.
3 - Possibility to fine-tune adjust parameters (at least the Re-sample one) (may I suggest shift + click-drag)
Good ideas
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