Reverberate - Convolution reverb with modulation for Mac and PC (AU, AAX, VST)

[liquidsonics]

That's good to hear

I do sometimes have people ask for a 'simple' or distilled view that hides away some of the complexity, but it's so difficult to know what that would look like and I tend to think this is why I produced Reverberate Core.

[Tapehead]

Hi guys, thanks for the kind words. I wonder if a lot of users like the clear attribution of reverb spaces and the ability to treat the presets as one-stop-shops without needing to worry about complexity when using more of a sample bank player like Mir/EW/AV. Reverberate perhaps is a convolution reverb that appeals more to people who want to get more control, and maybe that serves a smaller market.

I think the very minimalist GUI used to also put people off. Hopefully now it's a little more textured it will appeal a bit more to those, although it's still a big complex plugin. Reverberate Core is there for a simple player of external IRs.

Reverberate LE is more popular than ever, I am constantly surprised how many downloads it gets a month. Though the price + simplicity + efficiency + capability combination is unmatched elsewhere.

In regards to increasing the number of IR containers, that's a new product idea, not an update (the GUI would need major rework to fit it in and the signal paths are all stereo with two parallel process paths that would require plenty of work to widen). It would roll well into a surround plugin concept (just using it in a stereo mode but with all the mixing capability), but I am not sure how popular that would be. A few AAX users have asked for it recently, although I think mass market appeal would be fairly limited and I need to justify the development time. I figure most users are stereo musicians, and most of the rest would typically be well funded and want huge IR libraries (ie people who probably have their needs well catered for in Altiverb).

But maybe I am wrong, and that a massively expanded internal mixing and routing ability would be really popular and justify a version 2 ground-up product development.

The only thing I know of vaguely like the multi-IR concept is Butterfly, although pristine space does also have more IR containers and maybe that is an option despite having generally fewer options.

I am certainly in favour of the tutorial videos idea.

Yes there have been a lot of updates, so many great ideas have helped shape this into a really powerful product and I appreciate all the community support in getting there. As regards the price, when you compare some plugins to Reaper and Logic, how can they really be justified! In the present economic situations I would like to offer something people feel they can actually afford that offers them good value rather than just look straight to the piracy route. Maybe that's naive, but I hope my decision to price affordably and with a non-invasive software licensing scheme has been more of a help than a hindrance. It's been going pretty well so far

Personally, I don't think that adding new containers would make this plugin more complicated. It is like adding more channels in my DAW when I need it. I can have two or I can have 1000; the project might get more complicated but the DAW stays the same.

In fact, if one day you might decide to redesign this plugin then I think it would be best to make it more modular, this way users can add containers when they need it.

I don't work in surround but I do love layering different I.R. Sometimes I combine smaller rooms with cathedrals, then through in some sympathetic resonance or spectral file in between (or after) and then some samples of megaphones, tapes, preamps, etc, etc... This also why I would need volume/shape envelopes for each I.R window like in Pristine Space, SIR2 , Origami etc…

The idea is not new, for example Voxengo's Pristine Space has 8 containers can be configured any way you want but unfortunately this plugin is super ancient and probably won't be updated ever again. Knufinke Butterfly was also around for some time.

Recently, I worked for a gaming firm and somebody wrote for them this type of modular I.R. mixer but it was for Lynux and it is not commercially available. I absolutely loved working with this plugin. It was like a custom space builder without any limits.

[liquidsonics]

I like the modular reverb idea. That poses interesting interface design challenges in terms of keeping a useable front panel with a more complex advanced panel, but I doubt it will help me win over people who think Reverberate is already too complex! This would at least be a fairly new concept, I don't like the idea of doing products where there is already something on the market (the original point of Reverberate was to add some modulation to convolution).

[Amon1973]

Thanks for the very cool update and your work, Matt.

I have Reverberate since years and is still my favourite Covolution Reverb. And it just keeps getting better.

[Agathodaimon]

i got this plug-in for free with CM and abusing it like MAD

[koolkeys]

I don't know if people want a simple IR player or not. I'm guessing that for every person who just wants something simple, somebody else wants something complex.

I love Altiverb because of the top quality spaces that are provided. It's library really is unmatched. But feature-wise, it can't touch Reverberate. Spaces is so simple a caveman could do it, but for any serious composer wanting full flexibility over their space(which is important when mixing and matching libraries from different developers), I just don't know why it's used so much.

MIR, while it's actually a VERY complex plugin, isn't your traditional IR plugin. It's not a player at all, but something completely different and puts things on a whole other level. But it's price, combined with the limited spaces available for it(even though you can tweak things a lot) make it to not be the best every day, every project reverb.

So Reverberate really has the market leading feature set and support for a general IR reverb plugin. I can't wait to see where it goes next.

And the modular idea would be excellent indeed, though you could always just use something like Bidule until then.

Brent

[liquidsonics]

Glad you're liking the covermounted Reverberate CM, there's a lot more to enjoy in the full product

I agree Brent that Reverberate has some market leading qualities, I wonder what other avenues I should be exploring to get the word out to those who may not read forums or UK magazines. I've never felt google or Facebook ads really end up offering good value.

[koolkeys]

EDIT: Whoops, double post.

Brent

[koolkeys]

Glad you're liking the covermounted Reverberate CM, there's a lot more to enjoy in the full product

I agree Brent that Reverberate has some market leading qualities, I wonder what other avenues I should be exploring to get the word out to those who may not read forums or UK magazines. I've never felt google or Facebook ads really end up offering good value.

I think it's more important to rank better in their natural rankings(for Google, at least). It's about proper marketing and making yourself able to be seen.

If I were being honest, I would start with a website update. That will cost some money if you don't want to do it yourself(let me know if you need a good referral, as I know somebody who does websites pretty fair price ). I think a site that got the point out a little better and highlighted things a little better would go a long ways. Just sprucing it up a little bit. I have some other ideas if you do decide to go this route.

I think you should also consider some viral marketing campaigns. Do some giveaways and other prizes in exchange for some good old fashioned word of mouth marketing. I've seen success with other devs who have done this.

FWIW, I'll likely have Reverberate mentioned a time or two sometime soon at ProRec, but I'm still writing some things in that area.

I'll see if I can think of anything else. Long weekend and I'm quite tired, so a fresh brain will likely provide better ideas.

Brent

[Tapehead]

I work a lot with gaming and film studios and there is an obvious need for a multi container, modular I.R. plugin with deep editing capabilities. Many people that I know within this industry use rather large amount of I.R. layering. I think it is only a matter of time before somebody develops a truly flexible, modular I.R. engine in which we won't have to go through so many instances of the same plugin.

Just last night we were working on a project where we had to layer 14 different I.R files sampled from a single location. We had to drop different start points on each I.R., place shape envelopes on the tails, pan and morph them to get something that was surprisingly very natural, dynamic sounding space.

[liquidsonics]

This concept of very complex IR manipulation is interesting, I didn't realise people actually work that way with so many IRs at once for a single preset. Certainly something I will consider in future plans, thanks.

[Agathodaimon]

Glad you're liking the covermounted Reverberate CM, there's a lot more to enjoy in the full product

I agree Brent that Reverberate has some market leading qualities, I wonder what other avenues I should be exploring to get the word out to those who may not read forums or UK magazines. I've never felt google or Facebook ads really end up offering good value.

Well i guess i really like these versions more, lulz not only coz they are free, but the fact that you get you learn them easier, coz alot of parameters are missing and you dont get completely lost inside the GUI
Then when you learn it, you buy it, if you like it

[liquidsonics]

An update for Reverberate has gone live to allow you to quickly store links to user definable preset banks in the Saved Banks drop-down menu on the Presets tab. This should be handy for people who like to set up large banks of impulse responses (e.g. from the Samplicity sets etc) and then have them available for quick recall. This is also available for Reverberate Core within the Preset tab's Load/Save menu.

[elxsound]

Thanks for added features Matt. Also very cool to see the update in the My KVR section too. I'm liking how this is working out.

[5Lives]

Haven't read the entire thread, but since this is one of the few AAX64 compatible convo reverbs (apart from McDSP Revolver which just came out), wanted to ask a few questions:

- As I understand it, convo verb are only as good as their IRs. Altiverb continually updates their library with top notch IRs from world class locations. Does the library for Reverberate continually get updated as well or is it more for finding your own IRs and loading them in?

- Although IRs make the biggest difference, I believe there's something to be said for reproducing those IRs accurately. Altiverb's IRs (or at least the reproduction) along with Revolver are much more natural and useful than Waves version (IMO). How does everybody feel about Reverberate's quality?

Thanks!