KVR Audio

payt69 · Post by **payt69** » Mon Apr 16, 2007 11:35 pm

spacepl wrote:Hello

I've uploaded a small section of the blade runner soundtrack. http://rapidshare.com/files/26354293/bl ... s.mp3.html

The strings in the background... are they made with the "string-machine" or something else ? What could bring me close to this sound ?

Cheers,
Space

A roland VP 330 would give you the exact same sound, minus the effects V used on it.

You can get close to that sound with some knowledge of how to EQ a sound, a synth that can do a sawtooth wave (pretty much all of them) and some (or a lot) of chorus

I've used a CS-80V, which turns out to come pretty close if you tweak it in the right way.

A few songs i used it in:

http://moonbase69.nl/mp3/Mare%20Tranquillitatis.mp3 (in the ending and somewhere halfway the tune)

http://moonbase69.nl/mp3/Mischievous.mp3 (all over the song)

http://moonbase69.nl/mp3/Frogtears.mp3 (also all over)

Enjoy!

brok landers · Post by **brok landers** » Tue Apr 17, 2007 4:30 am

a vp330 made most of the vangelis pads in this area of time ... in bladerunner it's definately a vp330 ...
btw, your file to download is 15kb big, and cannot be played ... at least here ...
ahh payt69 beat me to it already ...

Ridlazz921 · Post by **Ridlazz921** » Sat Jun 15, 2013 11:07 pm

This thread needs to be resurrected !

im suprised that no one has mentioned anything abou 1492 :O

Does anybody know about a VST that has the vangelis flute from 1492 ?

I have been searching for this in a long time now, with no luck.
Any suggestions ?

ontol · Post by **ontol** » Sun Jun 16, 2013 12:43 am

layzer · Post by **layzer** » Sun Jun 16, 2013 1:35 am

Ridlazz921 wrote: Does anybody know about a VST that has the vangelis flute from 1492 ?

I have been searching for this in a long time now, with no luck.
Any suggestions ?

here is a short noodle i made using a cyberfree sampler fxp patch i created from an actual sample of the vangelis flute...
http://home.comcast.net/~layzer/kvr/vgpanflt.mp3

if it is to your liking, you can download cyber and the fxp patch here:

http://home.comcast.net/~layzer/kvr/cyber.zip

hope to be of help

HunterKiller · Post by **HunterKiller** » Sun Jun 16, 2013 8:28 am

himalaya · Post by **himalaya** » Sun Jun 16, 2013 10:01 am

You've been searching for this 'flute' and never found it because it's not a flute, but oboe. At least it has that characteristic 'reedy' oboe timbre, whether it's a sample or synthesised, who knows, but it's not a flute.

Most sample-based workstation-type instruments will have an oboe.

Ridlazz921 · Post by **Ridlazz921** » Sun Jun 16, 2013 12:30 pm

I heard another flute that i thought had the same sound.
Also from 1492

you can hear it at 1:59
Is this the same flute ?
It has the same vibrato sound i think.

himalaya · Post by **himalaya** » Sun Jun 16, 2013 12:59 pm

Ridlazz921 wrote: Is this the same flute ?

No. It also sounds like an oboe. Like in the other example. There is no flute in any of these examples.

vurt · Post by **vurt** » Sun Jun 16, 2013 1:08 pm

himalaya wrote:
Ridlazz921 wrote: Is this the same flute ?
No. It also sounds like an oboe. Like in the other example. There is no flute in any of these examples.

flute/oboe/bassoon/didgeridoo whats the difference, you blow em all...

Ridlazz921 · Post by **Ridlazz921** » Sun Jun 16, 2013 2:56 pm

Thanks Himalaya

Do you know any Oboe VST that is close to that sound ?
I tried with Edirol, but it didnt sound nothing like the one Vangelis used.

himalaya · Post by **himalaya** » Sun Jun 16, 2013 9:31 pm

The sample in your Edirol will sound different because samples of the same instrument made by different companies will just sound different. No getting around it.

Vangelis uses (or used) a lot of Korg keyboards so I'd imagine the oboe could've been made on one of his Korgs.

I just tried to mock up that line in Roland TTS-1 which is bundled with Sonar and which may be similar to your Edirol (Roland = Edirol = General Midi). The problem I had is with the attack. In the Vangelis piece the attack is nicely controlled with smooth fade-ins. In TTS-1 I found it impossible to do, so I did it via envelopes - which is very crude and definitely not as nice sounding if it was a real-time performance (with the attack/volume controlled via a mod wheel, for example). Also, each note is articulated by Vangelis in a very beautiful way - I certainly didn't have the patience to emulate each note in the same way so my example sounds different (rough!).

www.electric-himalaya.com/stuff/TTS1_oboe.mp3

This is the stock preset from TTS-1, unaltered (with Valhalla Vintage Verb).

Other sample based instrument may give you a closer sound.

himalaya · Post by **himalaya** » Sun Jun 16, 2013 9:33 pm

vurt wrote:
himalaya wrote:
Ridlazz921 wrote: Is this the same flute ?
No. It also sounds like an oboe. Like in the other example. There is no flute in any of these examples.
flute/oboe/bassoon/didgeridoo whats the difference, you blow em all...

like we blow bubbles?

Ridlazz921 · Post by **Ridlazz921** » Sun Jun 16, 2013 10:18 pm

wow nice

i thought that sound was closer than anything else i have heard.
TTS-1 is it a VST or is it a real keyboard ?
And were can i get it ?

And again, i thought you made a good example with that tune =)

BBFG# · Post by **BBFG#** » Sun Jun 16, 2013 10:42 pm

Van Gelis Sound.