KVR Audio

SKYZONE · Post by **SKYZONE** » Mon Jun 24, 2013 8:02 pm

This one is deticated to the albatross chicks.........wellcome to the plastic age

Song name : The albatross is eating plastic

Host : FL Studio 11

38 instances of feldspar vst

Fruity reeverb 2 , fruity compressor , fruity limiter

DR : 9

Enjoy

Fabrizio

stunkit · Post by **stunkit** » Mon Jun 24, 2013 11:11 pm

Hi everyone :) Cheers from Ukraine. I discovered KVRaudio few months ago. But I really enjoy it! And idea of song with one synth is great too. Nothing begets creativity so much as a healthy bit of restriction.

Here is my submission:

Spacefield
I have no idea how to embed SC widget, so here's link http://soundcloud.com/stunkit/stunkit-spacefield

• DAW: Cubase 5.1;
• ~30 instances of the synth;
• FXs: roomworks, compressor, monodelay, dualfilter, multiband compressor, maximizer, limiter;

z.prime · Post by **z.prime** » Tue Jun 25, 2013 12:47 am

stunkit wrote:I have no idea how to embed SC widget

Welcome! And if you have enough posts (5, I think) you just paste the link and the widget is free.

Kondarivan · Post by **Kondarivan** » Tue Jun 25, 2013 6:56 am

>> Hi everyone

Cheers from Ukraine. I discovered KVRaudio few months ago.
>> But I really enjoy it! And idea of song with one synth is great
>> too. Nothing
>> begets creativity so much as a healthy bit of restriction.
>>
>> Here is my submission:
>>
>> Spacefield
>> I have no idea how to embed SC widget, so here's link
>> http://soundcloud.com/stunkit/stunkit-spacefield

Welcome, and good luck in the competition!

(quote apparently no longer embeds soundcloud)

Kondarivan · Post by **Kondarivan** » Tue Jun 25, 2013 8:00 am

I suppose a lot of reverbing is against the rules, right? (as in taking a little snare and turning it into a spectacularly sounding gong)

Mushy Mushy · Post by **Mushy Mushy** » Tue Jun 25, 2013 8:07 am

Kondarivan wrote:I suppose a lot of reverbing is against the rules, right? (as in taking a little snare and turning it into a spectacularly sounding gong)

Nup. That's the point. It's all about creativity.
It just needs to be a free reverb.

Kondarivan · Post by **Kondarivan** » Tue Jun 25, 2013 8:31 am

The problem is not the plugin; but it kinda counts as making the sound "unrecognizable as being from the synth", isn't it?

Mushy Mushy · Post by **Mushy Mushy** » Tue Jun 25, 2013 8:35 am

Kondarivan wrote:The problem is not the plugin; but it kinda counts as making the sound "unrecognizable as being from the synth", isn't it?

That comment mainly refers to pitch effects AFAIK.

Kondarivan · Post by **Kondarivan** » Tue Jun 25, 2013 8:56 am

Mushy Mushy wrote:
Kondarivan wrote:The problem is not the plugin; but it kinda counts as making the sound "unrecognizable as being from the synth", isn't it?
That comment mainly refers to pitch effects AFAIK.

That would actually be some really good news. I'm curious about what V'ger thinks.

Mushy Mushy · Post by **Mushy Mushy** » Tue Jun 25, 2013 9:02 am

Kondarivan wrote:I'm curious about what V'ger thinks.

Oh yes absolutely.
This is just my own personal interpretation of the rules, so don't quote me

Kondarivan · Post by **Kondarivan** » Tue Jun 25, 2013 9:24 am

Mushy Mushy wrote:
Kondarivan wrote:I'm curious about what V'ger thinks.
Oh yes absolutely.
This is just my own personal interpretation of the rules, so don't quote me

Haha, okay

Side observation: I just found out why my envelope 1 release parameter was jumping like crazy. It's because I was automating expression and the parameter was assigned to CC43 (expression LSB). So, if you prefer using the modulation matrix for automating things based on mod wheel/aftertouch/expression, unlearning some parameters could come in handy

stunkit · Post by **stunkit** » Tue Jun 25, 2013 11:51 am

Kondarivan wrote:I suppose a lot of reverbing is against the rules, right? (as in taking a little snare and turning it into a spectacularly sounding gong)

Hi. If u mean some of sounds in my track (snare?), point me the time and I'll tell you what I was using there.

stunkit · Post by **stunkit** » Tue Jun 25, 2013 12:26 pm

Also I noted some disadvantages of this VSTi. Here's what i think:

1. No automation for OSC pitch, because it's drop-down menu (DD). So I can't draw my melody or glide effect with mouse. I think it's better to make pitch as rotary for octave, notes and cents;

2. No panner rotary and no option for LFO -> panner;

3. Very important: to make switch buttons to chose next LFO wave, for example. Because it's very annoying always click for drop-down menu, and select next wave. Same thing needed for ring modulation type DD menu;

4. Glide (portamento) works only between over-crossed notes. I don't like such mechanic. I want it work always I activated it.

5. Reduce options in modulation 1st DD menu, fore example LFO+ and LFO- to LFO, and make rotary to be in center. Than if u turn this left — it will be LFO- amount, if right — LFO+ amount.
Smth like that:

6. Make better user manual, specially for ARP and ENV Exp and Db modes. I didn't get anything with manual.

Advantages:
- it's cute;
- not complicated thought;
- great factory presets;
- free

PS: PM me my mistakes in posts, and I will correct it.

V'ger · Post by **V'ger** » Tue Jun 25, 2013 12:59 pm

Yes welcome here Stunkit

About Osc pitch, I can see you would need a knob for writing melody with it (never thought of this before), but for other things, can't you get things done with the LFO on it? There are some useful shapes there.

Panner I see is missing in other synths too, but I suppose the idea is that the track panner is to be used? Chris?

Kondarivan wrote:I suppose a lot of reverbing is against the rules, right? (as in taking a little snare and turning it into a spectacularly sounding gong)

What's acceptable level of effects is still not settled as the views are so varying. Yes a lot of reverb can really transform the original sound, but so will plain EQ if you think about it. The rule goes at unrecognizable, and in my opinion that means completely so. In other words, would it stand up in court if you turned up and down the effect? Can it still be said to be recognizable? For me a lot of reverb will never completely mask the sound, but for example distortion will. Point is that it's so unscientific that you must decide for yourself what you think is right, and people voting will have their own views etc. My own view is that we want as nice tracks as possible, and effects like reverb helps with that. But I know there are some purists as well who would like no effects at all, so..

Kondarivan · Post by **Kondarivan** » Tue Jun 25, 2013 4:23 pm

stunkit wrote:
Kondarivan wrote:I suppose a lot of reverbing is against the rules, right? (as in taking a little snare and turning it into a spectacularly sounding gong)
Hi. If u mean some of sounds in my track (snare?), point me the time and I'll tell you what I was using there.

LOL no, I'm referring to the track I'm currently working at.

1. No automation for OSC pitch, because it's drop-down menu (DD). So I can't draw my melody or glide effect with mouse. I think it's better to make pitch as rotary for octave, notes and cents;

Just set a mod wheel (or expression or aftertouch, whatever you find more comfortable) routing to osc1 pitch in Feldspar's mod matrix, and automate that. Setting the modulation amount to maximum gives you all the range you would ever need.

2. No panner rotary and no option for LFO -> panner;

True, I would have loved that too, also for things like emitting the sound in one location, moving to another but leaving the delay pan in the original location, but I suppose there are lots of workarounds for this.

4. Glide (portamento) works only between over-crossed notes. I don't like such mechanic. I want it work always I activated it.

I think that's quite a matter of taste; some prefer it the way it works now. (I for one am completely neutral)

Nifty idea about the +/- modulation thing.

6. Make better user manual, specially for ARP and ENV Exp and Db modes. I didn't get anything with manual.

What's with the arp? It's a pretty small and simple one. About exponential envelopes and db (which I suppose is inverse exponential), you could see this: http://www.synthmuseum.com/magazine/linexpo.html

What's acceptable level of effects is still not settled as the views are so varying. Yes a lot of reverb can really transform the original sound, but so will plain EQ if you think about it. The rule goes at unrecognizable, and in my opinion that means completely so. In other words, would it stand up in court if you turned up and down the effect? Can it still be said to be recognizable? For me a lot of reverb will never completely mask the sound, but for example distortion will.

I see what you mean. One could carve a saw wave out of filtering a white noise, with just an EQ, and that would be pretty unrecognizable, so there can't be a clear distinction between allowed/not allowed effects. I guess I'll just turn the wheel halfway and hope no one minds (:

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