Sad days for app designers!

[Scott Murrell]

--How would you like to be an app designer and you were working on this synth app only to see that Nave and Thor were released? I place GB and Sampletank in a different category but these two synth apps do so much, if someone can produce something that beats these two apps then they are obviously lightyears ahead of me (anyone who can produce any app is already lightyears of me anyway).
Now if someone can develop an app that produces the guitar strumming effects like GB but allows the pitch to be determined via midi!!

[BMoore]

[Numanoid]

if someone can produce something that beats these two apps then they are obviously lightyears ahead of me (anyone who can produce any app is already lightyears of me anyway).

Weird logic

Did you feel the same way about Doom when that was released?

Just when it came out it felt that it was the best ever, lightyears ahead, how could it be surpassed?

But then you get better machinery, more complex OS's, and then you get Quake, and then you get Half-Life, etc etc

Same thing will happen again...

[Scott Murrell]

if someone can produce something that beats these two apps then they are obviously lightyears ahead of me (anyone who can produce any app is already lightyears of me anyway).

Weird logic

Did you feel the same way about Doom when that was released?

Just when it came out it felt that it was the best ever, lightyears ahead, how could it be surpassed?

But then you get better machinery, more complex OS's, and then you get Quake, and then you get Half-Life, etc etc

Same thing will happen again...

Don't have time for games so I just get the apps that do the most for me with the least amount of effort but you're right, setting the bar higher will force those who wish to compete to do something different and better. It's a good thing.

[Scott Murrell]

Don't hurt yourself banging your head on whatever! LOL
In case you missed it here was the gist of my post:
"if someone can produce something that beats these two apps then they are obviously lightyears ahead of me (anyone who can produce any app is already lightyears of me anyway)."

Just an observation and a shout out to the developers of two very fine synths, you may disagree which is your right and I don't care....I'm happy and I paid for them so I have nothing to bang my head about...LOL

[martygras]

So I wasn't the only guy playin' Doom?
Oh, then Hexen, then Quake (still one of my favorites) and then I never got to Half-Life cuz I was makin' music...

It's cyclical, except every time the loop comes around something gets added or improved.
Sometimes it gets screwed up when the dev(s) makes a drastic change to the interface/workflow, then people look elsewhere, or stay at a previous rev.

Besides, I have about 200 Vsti's, most of which sound the same, but have different approaches to accessing oscillators, filters etc.

[Rhism]

--Now if someone can develop an app that produces the guitar strumming effects like GB but allows the pitch to be determined via midi!!

Scott, can you clarify this? I'm the developer of guitarism and am looking to add a "MIDI In" IAP at some point soon, would like to understand the kinds of things people want to do with MIDI for guitar strumming apps Thanks!

[martygras]

Rhism, I think Guitarism is a wonderful app as is, especially since you added the midi out function.

My take on the midi in would be to hit a note in a lower octave that decides the type of chord, (major/minor) etc. then hit the actual note higher on the keyboard that the chord is based upon.
It might also be nice to select whether the strum is up or down too.

Scott may have a different take on this though.

Thanks for a nice app Rhism.

[Rhism]

Thanks for the input martygras, understood! Scott, would be great to hear your thoughts too.

[BiancaNeve]

I would like it if the app would recognise an incoming chord or the nearest equivalent to it. The manual should explain which chords are valid.

Velocity of the chord could be picked up from here as well

The lowest guitar note is midi40 for standard tuning

Therefore notes below that could be used to indicate strum / picking patterns and it should continue to play this until it gets the note off from the original chord




Ideally it woulld also output either the new midi data or the guitar sounds or both.

Finally as a nice to have users would be able to make their own strum/plucking patterns

Thanks for the invitation to comment

[Rhism]

Thanks for the details Bianca!

Question: why do you want to have keyboard keys trigger strums (Marty's suggestion) or strumming / picking patterns (Bianca's suggestion) rather than just playing those on the app itself? Not saying these are bad suggestions, just want to understand your reasons for wanting them.

[BiancaNeve]

Thanks for the details Bianca!

Question: why do you want to have keyboard keys trigger strums (Marty's suggestion) or strumming / picking patterns (Bianca's suggestion) rather than just playing those on the app itself? Not saying these are bad suggestions, just want to understand your reasons for wanting them.

Honestly because my timing sucks, I wouldn't be generating the strums from a keyboard but from the piano roll off a daw.

[audiojunkie]

@Rhism I want to chime in on the Guitarism Midi thing while you are listening! One thing that I'd really like to be able to do, is set my tempo really slow, and then play Guitarism and have the midi output recorded. Then, I can speed up the tempo to the speed of my song and play back my part in Guitarism. This allows me to play very detailed parts (that I normally wouldn't be able to play alone). Garageband allows for this, but I don't want to keep Garageband on my system just for this feature alone (especially when I so dislike the effects and other aspects of Garageband). So, in short, I'd like to be able to have my played output sync'ed to tempo and recorded as Midi by my sequencer of choice. Then, I would speed up the tempo to the speed I want my song to be played at, and the sequencer would send the recorded midi output back to Guitarism, and play the part again but at the new tempo. Does that make sense?

Also, how are things coming with the IAP instrument packs? I'm really looking forward to an electric guitar!!! Thanks again!

--Sean

[audiojunkie]

Thanks for the details Bianca!

Question: why do you want to have keyboard keys trigger strums (Marty's suggestion) or strumming / picking patterns (Bianca's suggestion) rather than just playing those on the app itself? Not saying these are bad suggestions, just want to understand your reasons for wanting them.

Honestly because my timing sucks, I wouldn't be generating the strums from a keyboard but from the piano roll off a daw.

Wouldn't what I'm suggesting work as well if not better? Record at half the tempo, and then play it back at regular tempo. It would be MUCH easier to get correct timing, while also keeping the guitar feel that may well be lost if you start using a keyboard to trigger guitar strums.

--Sean

[BiancaNeve]

Thanks for the details Bianca!

Question: why do you want to have keyboard keys trigger strums (Marty's suggestion) or strumming / picking patterns (Bianca's suggestion) rather than just playing those on the app itself? Not saying these are bad suggestions, just want to understand your reasons for wanting them.

Honestly because my timing sucks, I wouldn't be generating the strums from a keyboard but from the piano roll off a daw.

Wouldn't what I'm suggesting work as well if not better? Record at half the tempo, and then play it back at regular tempo. It would be MUCH easier to get correct timing, while also keeping the guitar feel that may well be lost if you start using a keyboard to trigger guitar strums.

--Sean

The point is I can't play guitar, that's why I and so many other people like the auto strum feature on garageband, but lots of people complain that there.is no way to get the midi out of garageband.

I think what you're asking for can already be achieved via Audiobus and the daw of your choice (as long as it has midi)