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Caine123 · Post by **Caine123** » Sat Jul 06, 2013 8:37 am

i got a track with those elements but yeah i dont have learned this, it is long ago in school

can anyone help? how do i have to arrange my song for collab when someone sends me 3 files in F minor or C minor?

thanks

Nanakai · Post by **Nanakai** » Sat Jul 06, 2013 8:45 am

http://www.mixedinkey.com/HowTo

Caine123 · Post by **Caine123** » Sat Jul 06, 2013 9:03 am

Nanakai wrote:

http://www.mixedinkey.com/HowTo

thanks now i need to understand this

for example 4A = F Minor

, but what is 4A ?

Nanakai · Post by **Nanakai** » Sat Jul 06, 2013 9:06 am

Meaningless nonsense. The site I linked to numbers the keys 1-12, with A being minor keys and B being major.

murnau · Post by **murnau** » Sat Jul 06, 2013 9:11 am

i dont understand your question. it only said the the song start with Fmin or Cmin and nothing else: it isn't said what comes next, of course you can try the usual chord progressions (boring to death imo, you know like this pachabel progression Cmaj,Amin,Fmaj,Gmaj).

anyway since you asked maybe try out: http://autochords.com/ you'll get many progressions for Cmin & Fmin there.

ps. the 4A isn't meaningless nonsense it told you in which key you can mix here's the description: http://www.harmonic-mixing.com/HowTo.aspx

tho' it's not standard music theory it's good to start with.

Caine123 · Post by **Caine123** » Sat Jul 06, 2013 9:15 am

murnau wrote:i dont understand your question. it only said the the song start with Fmin or Cmin and nothing else: it isn't said what comes next, of course you can try the usual chord progressions (boring to death imo, you know like this pachabel progression Cmaj,Amin,Fmaj,Gmaj).

anyway since you asked maybe try out: http://autochords.com/ you'll get many progressions for Cmin & Fmin there.

sorry i wasnt asking chords i think, just which key on my keyboard is c minor and f minor ^^

Chapelle · Post by **Chapelle** » Sat Jul 06, 2013 9:24 am

Caine123 wrote:sorry i wasnt asking chords i think, just which key on my keyboard is c minor and f minor ^^

C minor and F minor are chords or scales.

On the keyboard you would have to play C, Eb and G for a C minor chord.

For a F minor chord you would play F, Ab and C.

For C minor and F minor scales see:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C_minor
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F_minor

murnau · Post by **murnau** » Sat Jul 06, 2013 9:27 am

oh sorry, now i understand and to complete:

for Cmin (C,E♭,G) its:

C, D, E♭, F, G, A♭, B, C

for Fmin (F,A♭,C) its:

F, G, A♭, B♭, C, D♭, E, F

jens · Post by **jens** » Sat Jul 06, 2013 9:33 am

Caine123 wrote:i got a track with those elements but yeah i dont have learned this, it is long ago in school

can anyone help? how do i have to arrange my song for collab when someone sends me 3 files in F minor or C minor?

thanks

For all types of keys it is always the same just shifted. The relation between the individual notes will stay the same.

(When we say "minor" we usually mean "natural minor" - however there's other minor keys as well.)

A-minor share the same notes with C-major, only that it starts with A instead of C. On piano, it only uses the white keys.

If you start with A, then the next white key is B, which is one whole note apart from A. But then comes C, and it is only half a note away from B. Next comes D, and it is one whole note away from C, then E again a whole, the F after it is also just just half a note. The next two a whole notes again, and then you have reached A again, just one ocatve higher.

So let's see:

whole note = W

half note = H

natural nimor:

W
H
W
W
H
W
W

And this relation of the individual notes will be the exact same with both F-minor and C-minor.

So to calculate what notes are e.g. in F-minor you only need to apply the table above. Start with F and then go upwards until you will have reached F one octave higher.

Acid Mitch · Post by **Acid Mitch** » Sat Jul 06, 2013 9:36 am

Caine123 wrote: sorry i wasnt asking chords i think, just which key on my keyboard is c minor and f minor ^^

If you mean C flat and F flat then that would be the B and E keys.
Sharp/flat refers to notes.
Major/minor refers to scales or chords.

debra1rlo · Post by **debra1rlo** » Sat Jul 06, 2013 9:37 am

i think this thread needs to be moved to music theory forum so the OP may get eaten alive by the regulars.

jens · Post by **jens** » Sat Jul 06, 2013 9:41 am

jens wrote:
W
H
W
W
H
W
W

just one more thing:

With A-minor, H is of course where there is no black key between two white ones on a keyboard.

Numanoid · Post by **Numanoid** » Sat Jul 06, 2013 10:19 am

Caine123 wrote:i got a track with those elements but yeah i dont have learned this, it is long ago in school

can anyone help? how do i have to arrange my song for collab when someone sends me 3 files in F minor or C minor?

Man, are you completely helpless did you drop out of school after the second grade?

There is no google where you live?:

https://www.google.com/search?q=c+minor

https://www.google.com/search?q=f+minor

vurt · Post by **vurt** » Sat Jul 06, 2013 10:46 am

to the op, run while you still can!
here be dragons!!

murnau · Post by **murnau** » Sat Jul 06, 2013 10:51 am

Numanoid wrote:There is no google where you live?

of course you are right, but then again where's the fun for the rest of us?

what key is C minor and F minor?