XILS Roland Vocoder VP-330 Plus - NEW SYNTH

[breakmixer]

Try the latest version of 1.02 dated June 30

I only installed today - that is the version - I'm going to try 1.01 now to see if that works...

Are you able to try a 64bit version of Cubase?

No - I don't bother with any 64bit as most of my essential stuff is 32bit(I use a few VST editors too).

I just tried the 1.01 version an that installed the VST 3 straight away with absolutely no problems - so something has changed in 1.02, I'll stick with 1.01 for now - I'm too busy with work atm to help much, however if he releases a fix I will test it before next weekend is over.

Quite a nice plugin from my 5 minute dabble > Just came back to say 'Yay it's working'.

[dusted william]

thanks.

I'll install the older version as well.

dw

[Numanoid]

V+ getting a lukewarm review in latest Beat magazin: 4 out 6 rating.

Their main complaint seems to be that they find the vocoder limited in options

[electro]

2 points out of 6 is a lot to subtract over feature set alone.

V+ is a huge sonic achievement and XILS finest choice of rare hardware to date. It captures the complete feature set of the original synth and goes a little beyond in a few cases. Seems to me Beat mag may not be evaluating the synth for what it is.

You don't critique an Odyssey VSTI for not being a 2600, or a Model D VSTI for not being a Moog Modular, do you?

[Ingonator]

V+ getting a lukewarm review in latest Beat magazin: 4 out 6 rating.

Their main complaint seems to be that they find the vocoder limited in options

Must be a joke as the vocoder already has more features than the real synth.

Maybe they compared to the rack version (SVC-350) that includes faders for different bands.


Ingo

[Numanoid]

Here is the concluding remarks in the review, maybe you can translate the main points?:

Technisch und in puncto Sound ist der Xils V+ eine astreine Umsetzung des Roland-Originals mit markantern Klang sowie zusätzlichen Features und somit zweifelsohne eine Wonne für Vintage-Liebhaber. Im Vergleich zur aktuellen Konkurrenz erschent das Plug-in aufgrund des komplizierten Routings und der begrenzten Möglichkeiten des Vocoders allerdings umständlich und limitiert. Spass macht der V+ allermal, wir raten aber zum persönlichen Test

[Ingonator]

Here is the concluding remarks in the review, maybe you can translate the main points?:

Technisch und in puncto Sound ist der Xils V+ eine astreine Umsetzung des Roland-Originals mit markantern Klang sowie zusätzlichen Features und somit zweifelsohne eine Wonne für Vintage-Liebhaber. Im Vergleich zur aktuellen Konkurrenz erschent das Plug-in aufgrund des komplizierten Routings und der begrenzten Möglichkeiten des Vocoders allerdings umständlich und limitiert. Spass macht der V+ allermal, wir raten aber zum persönlichen Test

Overall the conclusion seems to be very positive (which is why i don't get it'S only 4 of 6).
Sounds like in the part with the Vocoder they don't compare really with the Vocoder in the real thing but with other more advanced ones which is wrong of course. The original VP-330 had VERY few controls (much less than V+) for the vocoder.


Ingo

[Numanoid]

Overall the conclusion seems to be very positive (which is why i don't get it'S only 4 of 6).

Could of course be a printing error, but only 4 of the 6 boxes are ticked at the end of the review, so that's looks to be the score 67 out of 100

[Lotuzia]

2 points out of 6 is a lot to subtract over feature set alone.

V+ is a huge sonic achievement and XILS finest choice of rare hardware to date. It captures the complete feature set of the original synth and goes a little beyond in a few cases. Seems to me Beat mag may not be evaluating the synth for what it is.

You don't critique an Odyssey VSTI for not being a 2600, or a Model D VSTI for not being a Moog Modular, do you?

True. I would dream of having all the parameters of the V+ on my VP-330.

The VP-330 has *this* precise sound, with its "only" ten bands, and I think the V+ is quite faithfull regarding this sonic character.

I tried to match my VP vocoder sound with a lot of vocoders, software and hardware, and for a long long time, wich were/are more equipped in term of number of bands : Did not succeed. By far.

[donato]

The problem everyone has, and it's a fair one, is that the original synth is very limited. XILS has done a lot to try to make up for that and have done a great job. But to be fair, it's not a super comprehensive synth. It is a niche product. And to me that's great. It does what it does at the highest level for what it is. For others, the lack of versatility can be a turnoff. And that's it. It's not the first, second or even third synth you'd turn to. It's number 4 or what you want to make something special. And for that it's bloody fantastic.

as a disclaimer i should say i overuse string machine sounds in everything...but still!!!

[Lotuzia]

The problem everyone has, and it's a fair one, is that the original synth is very limited. XILS has done a lot to try to make up for that and have done a great job. But to be fair, it's not a super comprehensive synth. It is a niche product. And to me that's great. It does what it does at the highest level for what it is. For others, the lack of versatility can be a turnoff. And that's it. It's not the first, second or even third synth you'd turn to. It's number 4 or what you want to make something special. And for that it's bloody fantastic.

as a disclaimer i should say i overuse string machine sounds in everything...but still!!!

This

On the V+ you can shape the three engines, add enveloppe and velocity to the strings for example, wich make it much more versatile than my V+ in this field.

Then the V+, or the Solina, or a Rhodes, or a Honner Clavinet, or a Theremin, all have an unique sound that have been used on countless records. Anybody who has played one of these magical instruments know that, even if you wont make an analog funk bass on a Rhodes, or a soulfull keypart on a Solina, you have to understand the spirit of each machine, and then decline it to what eventually fit your tracks and your global directions and taste in music. Limited and Unique, the glorious duo that gave us so many great musical instruments.

[ChiTown24]

wow, nice job censoring that line of discussion Unidentified Moderator. There was absolutely no justification to do such a thing.. which is probably why you didn't bother trying I suppose.

[Numanoid]

censoring that line of discussion Unidentified Moderator.

I don't think trolling qualifies as discussion

[electro]

The problem everyone has, and it's a fair one, is that the original synth is very limited. XILS has done a lot to try to make up for that and have done a great job. But to be fair, it's not a super comprehensive synth. It is a niche product. And to me that's great. It does what it does at the highest level for what it is. For others, the lack of versatility can be a turnoff.

And who says every Synth has to do everything? Tell me who critiques an 808 because it "only" does synthetic drums? Physical space and weight are not issues ITB and it takes no effort to add softsynths to supplement whatever you feel you are missing.

Doing one thing exceptionally well is exactly what we need more of these days.

[Ingonator]

In another thread i posted a track/demo that 4 different plugins but the dominant one trough the whole track is Xils Lab V+. Se here, close to the end of the page:

http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... &start=150

It's really amazing how Xils V+ cuts trough a mix, which i already found with earlier demos i had published (e.g. mixes with Oxium or a Slim Phatty).


Ingo