KVR Audio

Crackbaby · Post by **Crackbaby** » Mon Jul 01, 2013 7:37 pm

Sure sounds good!

homunculus · Post by **homunculus** » Tue Jul 02, 2013 1:05 am

xiphiuz wrote:hi,

A little testdrive with this new beta where these parameters are automated with only an cascade sh 2 pole lowpassfilter:
- cuttoff
- resonance
- drive
- lfo-mod

furthermore: its just a saw wave as a sound source and some chords plus delay and reverb

https://soundcloud.com/xiphiuz/xiphiuz- ... 14-cascade

sounds nice!!

homunculus · Post by **homunculus** » Tue Jul 02, 2013 1:08 am

Andy the Cascade Filter sounds great! Thank you for all the hard work you put into this stuff, you make my music feel special with your plugins lol

toast · Post by **toast** » Wed Jul 03, 2013 6:22 am

I know you have enough on your plate right now Andy but ... is there any chance for the Drop (or the Glue) to work in audiosuite? Ever? Or is all the Pro Tools stuff handled by a wrapper that doesn't allow it?

mustgroove · Post by **mustgroove** » Fri Jul 05, 2013 4:16 am

Bit of a bug report - for some reason Ableton was running at 88.2, I opened a project which had a bunch of instances of The Drop, changed project sample rate back to 44.1 and Ableton crashed... re-opening Ableton, its crash reporter thingie pointed the finger at The Drop as the cause of the crash.

Definitely repeatable as well... The Drop 0.9.14, Live 9.0.4 64bit, OS X 10.8.4

andy-cytomic · Post by **andy-cytomic** » Mon Jul 15, 2013 1:57 pm

toast wrote:I know you have enough on your plate right now Andy but ... is there any chance for the Drop (or the Glue) to work in audiosuite? Ever? Or is all the Pro Tools stuff handled by a wrapper that doesn't allow it?

There is no audiosuite version of The Glue or The Drop, and Avid / Digidesign never allowed offline rendering of RTAS plugins for whatever reason, you'll have to ask them about it. I will be releasing the AAX Native version as a free upgrade that supports offline processing.

andy-cytomic · Post by **andy-cytomic** » Mon Jul 15, 2013 2:01 pm

News: I've found an important bug in the oversampling engine that is the most likely cause of intermittent crashes and silence that people have been experiencing, I hope this is the most stable version of The Drop yet and I recommend everyone update to this version. Also I've sorted out a very low cpu way to "warm up" the filters so there are no horrible clicks when switching circuits any more.

v0.9.16 (15 Jul 2013)
www.cytomic.com/drop

New: filters are now "warmed up" to prevent clicks when switching circuits
Fixed: bug in oversampling that could cause silence or crashes under certain conditions

MFXxx · Post by **MFXxx** » Mon Jul 15, 2013 6:26 pm

andy_cytomic wrote: Also I've sorted out a very low cpu way to "warm up" the filters so there are no horrible clicks when switching circuits any more.

v0.9.16 (15 Jul 2013)
www.cytomic.com/drop

New: filters are now "warmed up" to prevent clicks when switching circuits

Fixed: bug in oversampling that could cause silence or crashes under certain conditions

Thought the clicks was something exclusive to my system (should have logged it), thank you for the update

Addum :

Dropx64 Cascade SH working and behaving itself as exepected in Cubase 7.0.5x64/Win8x64. Mate this is progressing into a great plugin, much improved CPU usage since release which is great news.

Glue : Thanks for the Glue update inc. dropdown preset menu.

toast · Post by **toast** » Mon Jul 15, 2013 9:57 pm

andy_cytomic wrote:There is no audiosuite version of The Glue or The Drop, and Avid / Digidesign never allowed offline rendering of RTAS plugins for whatever reason, you'll have to ask them about it. I will be releasing the AAX Native version as a free upgrade that supports offline processing.

That's great to hear about AAX. I look forward to it.

I never really understood why some of 3rd party developers support audiosuite and some don't. I always assumed it had to do with tools like JUCE or it's equivalent not supporting it but that was just a wild guess. Hopefully Avid has made it a little more straight forward with PT11 but I'm in no real hurry to upgrade.

andy-cytomic · Post by **andy-cytomic** » Tue Jul 16, 2013 5:30 am

toast wrote: That's great to hear about AAX. I look forward to it.

I never really understood why some of 3rd party developers support audiosuite and some don't. I always assumed it had to do with tools like JUCE or it's equivalent not supporting it but that was just a wild guess. Hopefully Avid has made it a little more straight forward with PT11 but I'm in no real hurry to upgrade.

Audiosuite is a plugin standard that was created before computers were powerful enough to do realtime DSP tasks, so it was offline only. Later on Digi made a new plugin standard called "Real-Time Audio Suite" or RTAS, but they are not the same so supporting both takes more development resources and support time etc, so most third party developers just support RTAS since it's more useful.

toast · Post by **toast** » Wed Jul 17, 2013 3:21 am

andy_cytomic wrote:Audiosuite is a plugin standard that was created before computers were powerful enough to do realtime DSP tasks, so it was offline only. Later on Digi made a new plugin standard called "Real-Time Audio Suite" or RTAS, but they are not the same so supporting both takes more development resources and support time etc, so most third party developers just support RTAS since it's more useful.

I understand the history but audiosuite was not superseded by RTAS they exist in parallel. I actually use audiosute plugins more frequently than RTAS. For my day job (sound editing for films) I use audiosuite plugins almost exclusively. Hopefully Avid has made this less of confusing (I know that is an oxymoron) with PT11/AAX but we'll see...

I was asking you because I wanted to process some files with the Drop, couldn't and so used something else. I didn't buy the Drop or the Glue for this functionality so I'm not complaining, you're hardly the only one who doesn't support it, but just pointing out it is hardly legacy functionality.

andy-cytomic · Post by **andy-cytomic** » Wed Jul 17, 2013 5:02 am

toast wrote:
andy_cytomic wrote:Audiosuite is a plugin standard that was created before computers were powerful enough to do realtime DSP tasks, so it was offline only. Later on Digi made a new plugin standard called "Real-Time Audio Suite" or RTAS, but they are not the same so supporting both takes more development resources and support time etc, so most third party developers just support RTAS since it's more useful.
I understand the history but audiosuite was not superseded by RTAS they exist in parallel. I actually use audiosute plugins more frequently than RTAS. For my day job (sound editing for films) I use audiosuite plugins almost exclusively. Hopefully Avid has made this less of confusing (I know that is an oxymoron) with PT11/AAX but we'll see...

I was asking you because I wanted to process some files with the Drop, couldn't and so used something else. I didn't buy the Drop or the Glue for this functionality so I'm not complaining, you're hardly the only one who doesn't support it, but just pointing out it is hardly legacy functionality.

I didn't mean to imply that one format superseded the other, so sorry if that came accross in my post. I just pointed out why audiosuite is not supported by everyone, and that is because RTAS is the more important plugin format for most people and taking on new plugin formats increases support load and development time so is not a move taken lightly as it impacts lots of areas.

The Glue will never be released as an audiosuite plugin, but AAX does support offline rendering so you will be in the clear soon. If you would like a workaround for now there are many ways to batch process using The Glue (edit: and The Drop) via different audio editors / DAWs including Audition, Reaper, Audacity, Wavelab and loads more, that way you can also add AU / VST plugins to your audio processing arsenal.

olikana · Post by **olikana** » Wed Jul 17, 2013 3:17 pm

andy i hope for xmas you'll be able to release a synth based on all this wicked filter work

themossinator · Post by **themossinator** » Thu Jul 18, 2013 12:50 pm

my version of The Drop is still showing 0.9.14 even though ive downloaded and installed 0.9.16 (twice) ????

Dunc · Post by **Dunc** » Thu Jul 18, 2013 1:27 pm

I've got 0.9.16 running here (Windows 64bit).

What O/S and type (32bit or 64bit) are you running ?

Cytomic "The Drop" Resonant Filter