Behringer drops XT

[Z3R0T0N1N]

who knows, if it's true maybe it will be good for XT. Being tied to a large company with their own agenda can be it's own kind of death. Maybe it will come back now?

Dare to dream...

I'd still be using 1.4 if it had multicore support. Its live mode and multimode are still unmatched. Not for long mind you...

[farlukar]

oh yeah sure intel and amd conspired against him to make sure his product would only work on 1 core

Not only that, they stole that knowledge from him. eXT1.4 had rudimentary multicore support; sometimes it would even work.

[gamble]

imho the best thing would be to make energyXT2 open source with whatever license. you just need like three core supporters to get things going again.

[chaos318]

imho the best thing would be to make energyXT2 open source with whatever license. you just need like three core supporters to get things going again.

Yes, this would be great!
Maybe another option is to use a crowd-funding method.
The developer collect a list of new features ,enhancements and needed time for support. Then he estimates the budget needed and tries to collect the money via crowd-funding.
If the budget is reached then it will be realized and the money has to be payed, otherwise not.

[Brittlestem]

imho the best thing would be to make energyXT2 open source with whatever license. you just need like three core supporters to get things going again.

Yes, this would be great!
Maybe another option is to use a crowd-funding method.
The developer collect a list of new features ,enhancements and needed time for support. Then he estimates the budget needed and tries to collect the money via crowd-funding.
If the budget is reached then it will be realized and the money has to be payed, otherwise not.

Jorgen doesn't have the imagination for something like that.

[chaos318]

Maybe he still has contracts with Behringer or other contracts.
Anyhow, E-Mail him and make suggestions.
Here are the Contact details:
http://www.energy-xt.com/index.php?id=0500

[gamble]

imho the best thing would be to make energyXT2 open source with whatever license. you just need like three core supporters to get things going again.

Yes, this would be great!
Maybe another option is to use a crowd-funding method.
The developer collect a list of new features ,enhancements and needed time for support. Then he estimates the budget needed and tries to collect the money via crowd-funding.
If the budget is reached then it will be realized and the money has to be payed, otherwise not.

Jorgen doesn't have the imagination for something like that.

I know but it still a good option to save it from becoming (being?) abandonware. my best guess is that ext is not jorgen's main income but like a hobby ... just speculating though.

[robogone]

Maybe another option is to use a crowd-funding method.
The developer collect a list of new features ,enhancements and needed time for support. Then he estimates the budget needed and tries to collect the money via crowd-funding.
If the budget is reached then it will be realized and the money has to be payed, otherwise not.

I think he's burned a lot of bridges so I'd be surprised if anyone had confidence in him that it would get done.

[Caco]

imho the best thing would be to make energyXT2 open source with whatever license. you just need like three core supporters to get things going again.

Yes, this would be great!
Maybe another option is to use a crowd-funding method.
The developer collect a list of new features ,enhancements and needed time for support. Then he estimates the budget needed and tries to collect the money via crowd-funding.
If the budget is reached then it will be realized and the money has to be payed, otherwise not.

Jorgen doesn't have the imagination for something like that.

I know but it still a good option to save it from becoming (being?) abandonware. my best guess is that ext is not jorgen's main income but like a hobby ... just speculating though.

Back in the eXT1 days eXT was Jorgen's full time job and only source of income. I presume at some point though he moved on, found a job and fell out of love with eXT

[robogone]

Back in the eXT1 days eXT was Jorgen's full time job and only source of income. I presume at some point though he moved on, found a job and fell out of love with eXT

It would seem so. He seems disinterested to the point where he won't even comment on where it stands right now.

I know some people have said that he lost interest when criticism of lack of progress started, but that's chicken and egg - he could quite easily have reacted to it and made comment right there and then.

[jens]

I doubt he was compensated in anything but some satisfaction in his role in creating a very reasonably price and fully functional DAW. .

A couple of things:


1) eXT 1.x was very very successful. I think everyone's grandma owns a license for it.

2) up to this day, Jorgen never asked for an upgrade fee. Hundreds - if not thousands - of grandmas would have gladly been shelling out the odd buck for it. In fact mine still would.

3) XT2 was never really a successor of 1.x but rather a new different application that shared some basic ideas with 1.x. This was Jorgen's own choice.

4) eXT 1.x was coded in Delphi. Development was very fast. XT2 has been coded in C++ development has been and still is very slow. This was Jorgen's own choice.

[robogone]

4) eXT 1.x was coded in Delphi. Development was very fast. XT2 has been coded in C++ development has been and still is very slow. This was Jorgen's own choice.

I don't know if that's the reason why development was so slow. In a previous life I programmed in both languages, and can't think of any reason why moving from Delphi to C++ would slow development by the magnitude that we saw it slow.

I think it has a lot more to do with the fact that Jorgen has no interest. His lack of engagement with anyone who is still enthusiastic about eXT speaks volumes to me.

[tomtoo]

4) eXT 1.x was coded in Delphi. Development was very fast. XT2 has been coded in C++ development has been and still is very slow. This was Jorgen's own choice.

I don't know if that's the reason why development was so slow. In a previous life I programmed in both languages, and can't think of any reason why moving from Delphi to C++ would slow development by the magnitude that we saw it slow.

I think it has a lot more to do with the fact that Jorgen has no interest. His lack of engagement with anyone who is still enthusiastic about eXT speaks volumes to me.

Maybe he goes through a depression ?

Half human / Half developer ?

Who knows ? Hope he does well !

Its realy strange.

[jens]

I know some people have said that he lost interest when criticism of lack of progress started, but that's chicken and egg - he could quite easily have reacted to it and made comment right there and then.

Personally I think to some big extent the shallower part of the Scandinavian music scene is to blame. I think at some point some local halfway successful techno guys were much more influential regarding XT2's development than the whole of the original user-base. Jorgen just listened to the wrong people. This is where it all went wrong - that in addition to the slowdown due to coding in C++ instead of Delphi. Never change a winning team. Never change a winning trick. Jorgen did both.

[robogone]

Well something changed, and it might be all of the above. Either way we're really looking at abandonware in the eyes of most people now.