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robogone · Post by **robogone** » Tue Jul 16, 2013 10:38 pm

trimph1 wrote:Yes? And so?

I often wonder that too when I hear that.

VitaminD · Post by **VitaminD** » Sat Jul 20, 2013 12:37 am

Bitwig are back to responding on their facebook page to reasonable questions and posts (and even some not!) if you wanted to know something specifically about it.

Latest update from them: "No real news, taking care of bugs to finish it." and "If there are news, we will keep you up to date, for sure! In the meantime just ask if you have questions!"

So sounds fairly close to finish.. but, of course, they are staying quiet on the actual release date. My guess is they will pull an Apple and release it like Logic Pro X on some 'random' day, seemingly out of the blue to everyone (but I'm back to thinking Septemberish as latest).

hibidy · Post by **hibidy** » Sat Jul 20, 2013 7:44 am

@reply from other now NOT host thread because of 5 overly influential people:

No, I'm not interested other than I cruise KVR and used to be interested in the lolz. As far as I'm concerned bitwig is:

-not available, don't know when..if ever
-will be expensive, I'll bank on that
-isn't going to be developed at any rapid pace (I'll bank on that too)
-doesn't do anything I can't do in my current hosts
-don't like the attitude of the company (though that isn't uncommon for the area)

Until it's released, you can enjoy my not being in these threads. It's a dead horse. When it's released, I'll have something to say.

MEOW!!!!!!

Ingonator · Post by **Ingonator** » Sat Jul 20, 2013 9:48 am

LawrenceF wrote:Being dead serious (no kitties) it's current greatest advantage is that nobody has it yet so it's perfect. It's like that perfect lookimg model chick who you haven't actualy dated yet.

Once they actually release it we'll be able to better judge it's relative advantages and disadvantages.

Totally agree to that. In theory each unreleased software is perfect but problems will arrive soon enough after been released.

For a complex software like a DAW/host each discussion without actually having used it seems to be quite pointless.

Concerning workflow one work for you and others do not work. Personally i had found that Ableton Live is what works best for myself so far. Have tested demo version of several other hosts too and in some of them even simple things could be quite difficult to do.

As i upgraded to Live 9 Suite this year i am not interested to change to another host soon anyway.

Ingo

trimph1 · Post by **trimph1** » Sat Jul 20, 2013 9:57 am

Bigwig lost a potential customer here.

One can only deal with so many Real Soon Nows.

wasi · Post by **wasi** » Sat Jul 20, 2013 10:22 am

It'll come and we'll all try it out and decide if we like it.

SWAN808 · Post by **SWAN808** » Sat Jul 20, 2013 9:54 pm

does anyone know if this has external fx insert and latency ping?

murnau · Post by **murnau** » Sat Jul 20, 2013 10:07 pm

deadline can be a good thing sometimes. on the other side it isn't good if customers feel like beta testers. maybe bitwig better not had advert anything at that early stage. its difficult but this betaphase is really to long for 99% of the potential users.

robogone · Post by **robogone** » Mon Jul 22, 2013 1:51 pm

LawrenceF wrote:it's current greatest advantage is that nobody has it yet so it's perfect. It's like that perfect lookimg model chick who you haven't actualy dated yet.

So when it's released we'll find out that it farts, burps and has zits on its ass...

trimph1 · Post by **trimph1** » Mon Jul 22, 2013 1:54 pm

robojam wrote:
LawrenceF wrote:it's current greatest advantage is that nobody has it yet so it's perfect. It's like that perfect lookimg model chick who you haven't actualy dated yet.
So when it's released we'll find out that it farts, burps and has zits on its ass...

spaceman · Post by **spaceman** » Mon Jul 22, 2013 2:29 pm

trimph1 wrote:Bigwig lost a potential customer here.

One can only deal with so many Real Soon Nows.

Don't you worry, as soon as it's released you'll still all be over it like flies over cow dung.

mellotronaut · Post by **mellotronaut** » Mon Jul 22, 2013 2:44 pm

spaceman wrote:
trimph1 wrote:Bigwig lost a potential customer here.

One can only deal with so many Real Soon Nows.
Don't you worry, as soon as it's released you'll still all be over it like flies over cow dung.

+1

Echoes in the Attic · Post by **Echoes in the Attic** » Mon Jul 22, 2013 6:28 pm

I still don't think they should have called it "beta" when they were still finishing and adding so many features. But I don't think it's bad to be patient and make it a proper release with as little bugs as possible. I think that's a good attitude. They had me at proper PDC and plug-in sandboxing.

All I'm waiting to find out is how they're handling drum rack sends and macros. In Ableton Live, each device rack in a drum pad can map it's macros to it's sends, which is huge. So using you can make your default drum pad device something with send macros, thus having easy access on something like Push. I'd be hard pressed to leave that for Bitwig if it didn't have it.

pdxindy · Post by **pdxindy** » Mon Jul 22, 2013 6:48 pm

Echoes in the Attic wrote:I still don't think they should have called it "beta" when they were still finishing and adding so many features. But I don't think it's bad to be patient and make it a proper release with as little bugs as possible. I think that's a good attitude. They had me at proper PDC and plug-in sandboxing. All I'm waiting to find out is how they're handling drum rack sends and macros. In Ableton Live, each device rack in a drum pad can map it's macros to it's sends, which is huge. So using you can make your default drum pad device something with send macros, thus having easy access on something like Push. I'd be hard pressed to leave that for Bitwig if it didn't have it.

Now that I have Push, I am much less likely to switch to Bitwig. Push is fantastic!

trimph1 · Post by **trimph1** » Mon Jul 22, 2013 7:54 pm

spaceman wrote:
trimph1 wrote:Bigwig lost a potential customer here.

One can only deal with so many Real Soon Nows.
Don't you worry, as soon as it's released you'll still all be over it like flies over cow dung.

Yeah right...with studio one working so well here.

I doubt it...very much.

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