Spire Synthesizer

[Kindred]

agreed - some of the bass patches on this are VERY similar to that 'virus' sound. This thing will be killer once it gets an arp...

[juffi]

I'm testing different stuff right now with Spire and it's crazy, sometimes it remembers me to my Virus. Spire is capable to create this signature "Unison" sound of the Virus very well. I played a bit with Spire Plucks and Lead sounds.

It's not only Spire and it's not a complete track, more a idea but the main lead and the higher pluck is Spire.

http://4damind.com/up/23.mp3

Great demo! Yeah reminds me of my Virus C. I hope that when spire gets the arp, there are these "groovy going" arp sounds from the virus as well. Very close, so maybe spire will replace my sylenth1 , which still isn't 64 bit so its seems.

[VitaminD]

That Q6600 is pretty old. It's what I'd call a "by-gone" CPU. It's lived it's life. I had one but changed it 2 years ago.

Even the most modest current i5 will wipe the floor with that one. Like 4 to 6 times faster I'd think.

Cheers!
bManic

My Mac Mini is a 2.5ghz i5 and a single Spire pad patch maxes it out if I play with both hands.

I can't see a reason for it to be so high, even higher than Diva, by some way.

Was saying this day one. It's impossible to use productively to play pads which are one of its best strengths sound wise

I am starting to get disillusioned as as much raving I have done about it, the cpu usage is through the roof and the synth just doesn't seem to be taking off like sylenth.

Bought it at the never ending intro price what was it like almost too months ago? I thought it would have had great progress by now.

As far as diva, it can multi core. A host can never very use 100% of each thread anyway so diva taps into that left over headroom. With logic in evry day work I can usually get my macs cpu meter showing max around 550% of a theoretical 800% (8 threads). With diva it seems to allow to go to 700% . Wow.

Spire at the very least needs a multi thread button but what it REALLY needs is 50% reduction in cpu usage, simple as that. No less than a double optimisation. The difference in spires case is that its bad programming. As in inefficient, because the sound as nice as it is, does not reflect a synth that should be a cpu detroyer. The developers need to learn how to optimise their plugin properly.

Plus diva is still ish on my list when I have 200 bucks lying around and I don't want to start using too many synths that use their own multithreading, already have Halion and kontakt which do that also, then will eventually definitely add diva.. And since those don't display on the hosts cpu meters, using them all the time will start to get tricky to know a project's cpu headroom.

I set the polyphony to 16 and laid my arms on my keyboard using a synthy pad patch.. the CPU meter never seemed to rise above 36% using an i5 2500 in Windows7

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In other news.. my personal take..

Spire fits with me in terms of sound (gorgeous, thick, punchy sound) but am not fond of the small GUI size and no way to adjust. As a result, I likely wouldn't produce many patches with it since I find the gui size uncomfortably small so I'd be relying on patches which are non-existent in the 3rd party realm at this point.

And it is $99.95 USD according to share-it... a considerable amount of money for me.. not sure I want to spend 100 dollars on another synth when I already have too many.. from a developer unproven (not sure if you'll be around in a month, 6 months, 2 years for compatibility updates and bug fixes) hmmmmm decisions.

If this was ~60 USD, I'd buy without issue.. guess I'm not the target market though..

[aquar]

And it is $99.95 USD according to share-it... a considerable amount of money for me.. not sure I want to spend 100 dollars on another synth when I already have too many.. from a developer unproven (not sure if you'll be around in a month, 6 months, 2 years for compatibility updates and bug fixes) hmmmmm decisions.

If this was ~60 USD, I'd buy without issue.. guess I'm not the target market though..

VitaminD,
if the developers cut the cost now it would be a disaster to those that put their faith into the Synth.
I must admit if Reveal made assurances that they would continue to improve upon the Synth, optimize it a bit here and there and add many more filters and such..
I think that would be cool. If no new filters become available I for one will become very pissed off.

Actually I think that's what they said they would do and so far they have lived up to the promise.
We now have the stepper and I am confident in time the arp will be due.
Then I am guessing the much needed optimization can finally start.

Coding stuff takes time, but hey so far Reveal have delivered ...
they've come up with a very special Synth.
Spire sounds very cool

[GeorgeZ]

I've been dealing with R.A. from very early on in the piece, and although their response times have sometimes been very long, they always, and I mean every single time so far, replied to my emails etc. Apart from the anonymity factor that seems to bother most (I like to know who I'm addressing, I have to admit, but not a deal breaker by any stretch), I personally have no reason to doubt they're in it for the long run. This is not an endorsement, just a vote of confidence in a Dev that's not showed any reason to me to doubt they're commitment.

[VitaminD]

And it is $99.95 USD according to share-it... a considerable amount of money for me.. not sure I want to spend 100 dollars on another synth when I already have too many.. from a developer unproven (not sure if you'll be around in a month, 6 months, 2 years for compatibility updates and bug fixes) hmmmmm decisions.

If this was ~60 USD, I'd buy without issue.. guess I'm not the target market though..

VitaminD,
if the developers cut the cost now it would be a disaster to those that put their faith into the Synth.
I must admit if Reveal made assurances that they would continue to improve upon the Synth, optimize it a bit here and there and add many more filters and such..
I think that would be cool. If no new filters become available I for one will become very pissed off.

Actually I think that's what they said they would do and so far they have lived up to the promise.
We now have the stepper and I am confident in time the arp will be due.
Then I am guessing the much needed optimization can finally start.

Coding stuff takes time, but hey so far Reveal have delivered ...
they've come up with a very special Synth.
Spire sounds very cool

Yes, it does sound very 'cool' indeed

[Robmobius]

Devs are totally solid as far as I'm concerned... Just look back through this thread for the evidence.

[Aiynzahev]

I'm testing different stuff right now with Spire and it's crazy, sometimes it remembers me to my Virus. Spire is capable to create this signature "Unison" sound of the Virus very well. I played a bit with Spire Plucks and Lead sounds.

It's not only Spire and it's not a complete track, more a idea but the main lead and the higher pluck is Spire.

http://4damind.com/up/23.mp3

Great demo! Yeah reminds me of my Virus C. I hope that when spire gets the arp, there are these "groovy going" arp sounds from the virus as well. Very close, so maybe spire will replace my sylenth1 , which still isn't 64 bit so its seems.

Sounds awesome

[___loser]

What is the upgrade policy exactly?

[lavenderaudio]

I bit the bullet and bought it. It just keeps on delivering. Absolutely amazing sounds. I have a few minor niggles though, all UI related.

In Ableton Live 9 on OSX Lion, it's very sluggish to work with especially during playback. Also when editing the stepper, moving the little handles is very tedious and I end up hving to drag my mouse the full length of my desk a few times to get it all the way to the top or bottom, and I also encountered a crash while using the stepper. So I'll be avoiding that until it's fixed. I've not had any performance issues, running a project with 7 pretty intense instances of spire with max CPU load of around 40%, though do bear in mind I am doing a whole bunch of really intensive stuff at the same time

Top notch synth. If you're on the fence, give the demo a whirl, I know the noise sweeps are annoying and they make it hard to demo it properly (Although its better than the sylenth "Thanks for trying this damo" loop) you'll get the idea.

[paterpeter]

The synth sure looks interesting, but I won't do business with a developer who doesn't publicly reveal (got it? ) their name or location and doesn't have a track record. At least not when we're talking about 80€+. This secrecy is quite amateurish and suspicious IMO and I wouldn't be surprised to see the whole thing go down due to some stupid tax issues or so.

Sorry to be so negative, I just don't have a good feeling about this

[sound_dev]

What is the upgrade policy exactly?

Buy once, free updates

[tehlord]

I've been dealing with R.A. from very early on in the piece, and although their response times have sometimes been very long, they always, and I mean every single time so far, replied to my emails etc. Apart from the anonymity factor that seems to bother most (I like to know who I'm addressing, I have to admit, but not a deal breaker by any stretch), I personally have no reason to doubt they're in it for the long run. This is not an endorsement, just a vote of confidence in a Dev that's not showed any reason to me to doubt they're commitment.

My own experience is that they took a while to answer my email, and then didn't address all the points I'd made. When I asked again in a response email they didn't bother responding at all.

I do not appreciate that much.

[billcarroll]

Great synth. Worth more than they are asking.

The negative conspiracy theory stuff is ridiculous.

[Robmobius]

The negative conspiracy theory stuff is ridiculous.

Absolutely mate...