KVR Audio

Numanoid · Post by **Numanoid** » Mon Jul 29, 2013 10:45 am

In my opinion it looks like many developers these days take the money they earn on overpriced plugins, and invest them in research and development of plugins for iPad which is sold dirt cheap.

In the case of Waldorf Largo is sold at €199 while Nave costs just $20

I don't understand this difference in pricing, and I don't understand the reasoning that it is because it is a different market. Anybody who got Nave or other iPad plugins can hook that up to their computer and record via Midi.

whyterabbyt · Post by **whyterabbyt** » Mon Jul 29, 2013 10:46 am

Numanoid wrote:I don't understand the reasoning that it is because it is a different market.

Here ya go...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supply_and_demand

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Mon Jul 29, 2013 11:01 am

Nave is also quite different from Largo, so whatever.

fmr · Post by **fmr** » Mon Jul 29, 2013 11:07 am

whyterabbyt wrote:
Numanoid wrote:I don't understand the reasoning that it is because it is a different market.
Here ya go...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supply_and_demand

So, we may conclude that supply of iApps is way bigger than demand?

I was suspecting of that. But wouldn't it be a reason for developers to stay away, instead of jumping into the wagon? I find it strange so many developers are wishing to get in to be able to sell their work for peanuts.

Numanoid · Post by **Numanoid** » Mon Jul 29, 2013 11:12 am

EvilDragon wrote:Nave is also quite different from Largo, so whatever.

Yes, but maybe it would be good if Waldorf could use work force money in what they promised to do, deliver a 64 bit plugin for Largo, which is now long overdue, instead of spending time developing iPad plugins instead.

BDeep · Post by **BDeep** » Mon Jul 29, 2013 11:13 am

Numbers people, numbers. There's a trunckload of iOS people and a spoon of DAW people. Make the price of your iOS app such that you gain some impulse buys, and you're golden.

BDeep · Post by **BDeep** » Mon Jul 29, 2013 11:15 am

Numanoid wrote:
EvilDragon wrote:Nave is also quite different from Largo, so whatever.
Yes, but maybe it would be good if Waldorf could use work force money in what they promised to do, deliver a 64 bit plugin for Largo, which is now long overdue, instead of spending time developing iPad plugins instead.

With that I can agree. But unfortunately near-finished, party finished and maybe someday finished products are the name of the game with Waldorf since ages.

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Mon Jul 29, 2013 11:32 am

Numanoid wrote:
EvilDragon wrote:Nave is also quite different from Largo, so whatever.
Yes, but maybe it would be good if Waldorf could use work force money in what they promised to do, deliver a 64 bit plugin for Largo, which is now long overdue, instead of spending time developing iPad plugins instead.

If you don't recall, main Largo software developer left Waldorf (and Nave had a different developer). It is not easy continuing work from somebody else's code, I assure you.

fmr · Post by **fmr** » Mon Jul 29, 2013 11:38 am

EvilDragon wrote:If you don't recall, main Largo software developer left Waldorf (and Nave had a different developer). It is not easy continuing work from somebody else's code, I assure you.

Was he Wolfram Franke? I thought it was Steffan Stenzel.

whyterabbyt · Post by **whyterabbyt** » Mon Jul 29, 2013 11:39 am

fmr wrote:
whyterabbyt wrote:
Numanoid wrote:I don't understand the reasoning that it is because it is a different market.
Here ya go...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supply_and_demand
So, we may conclude that supply of iApps is way bigger than demand?

Only if the conversation were in the context of that one single market, but I though you were comparing two markets, in which case I'd have thought that you might conclude that the demand for audio apps is way bigger than the demand for synth plugins.

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Mon Jul 29, 2013 11:39 am

It was Steffan, yes. He also did a lot of DSP work on Largo.

fmr · Post by **fmr** » Mon Jul 29, 2013 11:46 am

EvilDragon wrote:It was Steffan, yes. He also did a lot of DSP work on Largo.

You mean both Steffan and Wolfram left Waldorf? Hmm... it seems hard to recover from that.

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Mon Jul 29, 2013 11:50 am

No, wait, just one of them left. Now I don't remember which one. But either way they both worked on the DSP part of Largo, whereas Wolfram also worked on GUI programming.

Sorry, this heatwave (it's around 40°C in this part of Croatia) turned my brain into shit.

Numanoid · Post by **Numanoid** » Mon Jul 29, 2013 12:13 pm

EvilDragon wrote:It is not easy continuing work from somebody else's code, I assure you.

Is it this kind of task the programmer need to solve?: http://www.viva64.com/en/a/0004/

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Mon Jul 29, 2013 12:17 pm

I'm hoping 64 bit only Logic will put a kick-up-the-backside for those developers dragging their feet over 64 bit. Although it is causing problems in the short term, in the long term it's probably a good thing that they chose to let go of 32 bit entirely and a lot of people will be thanking them for taking the lead one day.

Waldorf Largo 64 bit, when?