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chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Mon Jul 29, 2013 2:10 pm

Robmobius wrote:Devs are totally solid as far as I'm concerned...

Yeah, despite they set up their business so they avoid taxes in russia, which surely is illegal.

So, basically, their company could be dead tomorrow afaic. Not that i want to keep people from spending their money on this, everyone has got to know...

fisherKing · Post by **fisherKing** » Mon Jul 29, 2013 2:15 pm

chk071 wrote:
Robmobius wrote:Devs are totally solid as far as I'm concerned...
Yeah, despite they set up their business so they avoid taxes in russia, which surely is illegal. So, basically, their company could be dead tomorrow afaic. Not that i want to keep people from spending their money on this, everyone has got to know...

the site owner is registered in belize...true. but you know the rest of this how? it's a great synth, and seems like a labor of love...NOT a scam. hardly worth building a synth plugin to run a scam...

thank god american & european companies don't do anything remotely shady.....

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Mon Jul 29, 2013 2:27 pm

fisherKing wrote: the site owner is registered in belize...true. but you know the rest of this how?

One of the dev's said earlier in this thread that they want to avoid taxes. Anyway, not my business.

Not a scam, just a bit shady imo.

rob_lee · Post by **rob_lee** » Mon Jul 29, 2013 2:32 pm

chk071 wrote: One of the dev's said earlier in this thread that they want to avoid taxes. Anyway, not my business. Not a scam, just a bit shady imo.

Errr but they don't mind charging VAT lol when you go to purchase it

http://www.shareit.com/product.html?car ... =300577477

CLASSIC!

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Mon Jul 29, 2013 2:37 pm

Maybe they rather have problems with the russian authorities than with EU authorities.

Anyway, enough trolled. Going back to my cave now, woof.

Robmobius · Post by **Robmobius** » Mon Jul 29, 2013 3:00 pm

chk071 wrote:
Robmobius wrote:Devs are totally solid as far as I'm concerned...
Yeah, despite they set up their business so they avoid taxes in russia, which surely is illegal. So, basically, their company could be dead tomorrow afaic. Not that i want to keep people from spending their money on this, everyone has got to know...

Tax avoidance - Surely you mean they 'legally' avoid their taxes then?:

'In contrast, tax avoidance is the legal use of tax laws to reduce one's tax burden.'

Many companies have also 'died' in the recent down turn too. It's just a roll of the dice with most things...

sound_dev · Post by **sound_dev** » Mon Jul 29, 2013 3:12 pm

chk071 wrote:Maybe they rather have problems with the russian authorities than with EU authorities. Anyway, enough trolled. Going back to my cave now, woof.

Reveal Sound doesnt have any problems anywhere. Its a common case for companies which develops software in Russia have a mother company registered outside. This is absolutely legal. Why people choose this way? It is a very long story which hard to understand living in EU or in US.

osiris · Post by **osiris** » Mon Jul 29, 2013 9:37 pm

It's not hard to understand. Just look at any American pharmaceutical company...

Nielzie · Post by **Nielzie** » Mon Jul 29, 2013 9:43 pm

rob_lee wrote:
chk071 wrote: One of the dev's said earlier in this thread that they want to avoid taxes. Anyway, not my business. Not a scam, just a bit shady imo.
Errr but they don't mind charging VAT lol when you go to purchase it

http://www.shareit.com/product.html?car ... =300577477

CLASSIC!

That's what I was thinking too

4damind · Post by **4damind** » Mon Jul 29, 2013 10:12 pm

osiris wrote:It's not hard to understand. Just look at any American pharmaceutical company...

Look to a lot of other not so important and small companies like Apple

Most of them having "letterbox companies" in some countries to avoid billions in Tax.
(I read somewhere that Apple has saved at least $74 billion).
Russia is.. special

We all know about the dictator Putin and a lot of stuff many in the "western world" don't understand about this country. I think that some stuff is not so easy in Russia also if running a own company and Tax could be a part of this.

Aiynzahev · Post by **Aiynzahev** » Mon Jul 29, 2013 10:35 pm

sound_dev wrote:
chk071 wrote:Maybe they rather have problems with the russian authorities than with EU authorities. Anyway, enough trolled. Going back to my cave now, woof.
Reveal Sound doesnt have any problems anywhere. Its a common case for companies which develops software in Russia have a mother company registered outside. This is absolutely legal. Why people choose this way? It is a very long story which hard to understand living in EU or in US.

Right on, stick it to the man!

vega555 · Post by **vega555** » Tue Jul 30, 2013 12:01 am

Spire Synthesizer update to v0.9.13 (2013.07.30 3:47)
=========================================
+ Added: Arpeggiator
+ Added: Microbank "Arp Demo.sbf"
- Fixed: Touch Mode Automation in Logic

___loser · Post by **___loser** » Tue Jul 30, 2013 12:07 am

with my few coinage i have for these things, just went all in.

Robmobius · Post by **Robmobius** » Tue Jul 30, 2013 12:12 am

vega555 wrote:Spire Synthesizer update to v0.9.13 (2013.07.30 3:47)
=========================================
+ Added: Arpeggiator
+ Added: Microbank "Arp Demo.sbf"
- Fixed: Touch Mode Automation in Logic

SWEET!!

djanthonyw · Post by **djanthonyw** » Tue Jul 30, 2013 12:41 am