KVR Audio

Phil Sonic Academy · Post by **Phil Sonic Academy** » Mon Jul 29, 2013 4:30 pm

yes i can very much understand how that could happen... im in love with it myself although i have only been teasing myself with the demo so far.

kev2525 · Post by **kev2525** » Tue Jul 30, 2013 2:46 pm

Maybe I missed it on this thread, but when I used to use sylenth one of the things that stood out for me what not only the sonic character, but the way it seemed to fit into a mix so well. I haven't tried a lot of the other synths on this list,but I do own fabfilter twin 2 and it also seems to share this quality. well, in my opinion anyway. I also have z3ta which I like and it sounds brilliant on it's own, but it just doesn't quite cut through like the other two. It needs a little more sculpting to get it to blend.

ferez21 · Post by **ferez21** » Tue Jul 30, 2013 2:49 pm

kev2525 wrote:but the way to seemed to fit into a mix so well.

A lot of people are using this phrase to describe some synths like it was some kind of secret magic. Can't this phrase be translated into a real world definition of what actually make a synth "cut through a mix"?

arkmabat · Post by **arkmabat** » Tue Jul 30, 2013 2:55 pm

ferez21 wrote:
kev2525 wrote:but the way to seemed to fit into a mix so well.
A lot of people are using this phrase to describe some synths like it was some kind of secret magic. Can't this phrase be translated into a real world definition of what actually make a synth "cut through a mix"?

Top end EQ? Clarisonix does wonders with its clarity knob.

fisherKing · Post by **fisherKing** » Tue Jul 30, 2013 3:08 pm

i have, over the last 10 days, played with: ana, dune, diversion, corona, saurus, twin 2, curve 2, retrologue, synthmaster. all good plugins. (am currently playing with imposcar).

each one is valuable by themselves. but as a sylenth1 replacement, am holding out for....lennard's promised 64bit AU. nothing else is quite the same.

kev2525 · Post by **kev2525** » Tue Jul 30, 2013 5:06 pm

ferez21 wrote:
kev2525 wrote:but the way to seemed to fit into a mix so well.
A lot of people are using this phrase to describe some synths like it was some kind of secret magic. Can't this phrase be translated into a real world definition of what actually make a synth "cut through a mix"?

In a way it must be some kind of secret magic. After all there must be a reason sylenth is still so popular after all these years.

Phil Sonic Academy · Post by **Phil Sonic Academy** » Tue Jul 30, 2013 5:09 pm

I think Sylenth is so popular as it was the first user friendly programmable plugin synth with a good filter and a good super saw.

Before it there was only really rfx vanguard for that type of stuff.

Halma · Post by **Halma** » Tue Jul 30, 2013 5:34 pm

ferez21 wrote:
kev2525 wrote:but the way to seemed to fit into a mix so well.
A lot of people are using this phrase to describe some synths like it was some kind of secret magic. Can't this phrase be translated into a real world definition of what actually make a synth "cut through a mix"?

Character? And it's not about how it "cuts through" but "fits into" the mix. Less eq, less whatever, less fx afterwards to make them shine. It just fits.

Regards
Sebastian

liquidsound · Post by **liquidsound** » Tue Jul 30, 2013 5:38 pm

Halma wrote:
ferez21 wrote:
kev2525 wrote:but the way to seemed to fit into a mix so well.
A lot of people are using this phrase to describe some synths like it was some kind of secret magic. Can't this phrase be translated into a real world definition of what actually make a synth "cut through a mix"?
Character? And it's not about how it "cuts through" but "fits into" the mix. Less eq, less whatever, less fx afterwards to make them shine. It just fits.

Regards
Sebastian

Albino does that for me as well.

Cyforce · Post by **Cyforce** » Wed Jul 31, 2013 6:57 am

In my eyes - Spire, ElectraX & DUNE would be the best alternatives. All 3 very usable for edm styled sounds, same what Sylenth1 is mostly used for. And also all 3 very nice on the CPU load.

xx JPRacer xx · Post by **xx JPRacer xx** » Wed Jul 31, 2013 7:48 am

Cyforce wrote:In my eyes - Spire, ElectraX & DUNE... all 3 very nice on the CPU load.

Cyforce · Post by **Cyforce** » Wed Jul 31, 2013 8:14 am

xx JPRacer xx wrote:
Cyforce wrote:In my eyes - Spire, ElectraX & DUNE... all 3 very nice on the CPU load.

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xx JPRacer xx · Post by **xx JPRacer xx** » Wed Jul 31, 2013 8:56 am

^ What I meant is Spire is probably the heaviest synth right now in term of CPU usage, more than Diva even.

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Wed Jul 31, 2013 9:04 am

What's the most CPU friendly, yet aliasing-free supersaw synth that's considered Sylenth quality? It should have at least 16 saws per voice - Sylenth does 32 IIRC, 8 for each of 4 oscs. They should be stereo spreadable, i.e. each unison oscillator should have stereo output and some control over spread or pan.

I'm asking because, errrm, I've dug out an old supersaw oscillator module. It was supposed to go into Zebra, but then I decided to add larger unison to its normal oscillators. This module feels a bit lost, so maybe we can use it to lower the overall CPU print of our fleet. I'd love to run some benchmarks when I have a free minute.

(not that I've got any idle time to spend on this, but I'm curious and there's no day without anyone asking us about a low CPU synth for EDM)

idfpower · Post by **idfpower** » Wed Jul 31, 2013 9:38 am

Urs wrote:(not that I've got any idle time to spend on this, but I'm curious and there's no day without anyone asking us about a low CPU synth for EDM)

That would be killer

Unfortunately some of us are forced to work on older PCs...an instrument with the sonic quality U-HE is known for that's also easy on the CPU? Yes, please

Hell yeah

That's why I enjoyed working with Podolsky for the previous OSC - it was soo gentle on the CPU

Alternative to Sylenth1