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sound_dev · Post by **sound_dev** » Tue Jul 30, 2013 5:40 pm

djanthonyw wrote:
rusetsky wrote:qrp and stepper bank not included in Mac installer
Please double check, they installed ok for me.

Currently all banks are installed into /Library/Audio/Sounds/Banks/RevealSound/

In next release only factory bank will be placed in those directory, stepper and arp banks you can copy anywhere from finder window.

4damind · Post by **4damind** » Tue Jul 30, 2013 6:31 pm

Some output from the last hours while playing with the new Arp.
11x Spire and no other synth are used, only drums and FX are not from Spire.

I used 2 arp-sounds playing in the background and giving this "trancy" feeling.
Some sounds are presets from the factory bank and some sounds I programmed by myself.

It's the first idea and needs some more work to have a complete song.
http://4damind.com/up/frank_arnold-driblet_spire.mp3

...and a screenshot from the project:

aquar · Post by **aquar** » Tue Jul 30, 2013 7:25 pm

chk071 wrote: I propose you to read the article yourself... i'm not talking about justification, i'm talking about legal issues, as that's the thing of concern here.

Most Spire users here seem too busy enjoying the Synth to get hung up on legal bs.

Try not to get too hung up on politics and just enjoy the sound.

rusetsky · Post by **rusetsky** » Tue Jul 30, 2013 7:51 pm

sound_dev wrote:
djanthonyw wrote:
rusetsky wrote:qrp and stepper bank not included in Mac installer
Please double check, they installed ok for me.
Currently all banks are installed into /Library/Audio/Sounds/Banks/RevealSound/

In next release only factory bank will be placed in those directory, stepper and arp banks you can copy anywhere from finder window.

Thank you. I found them there)

Examigan · Post by **Examigan** » Tue Jul 30, 2013 7:54 pm

4damind wrote:Some output from the last hours while playing with the new Arp.
11x Spire and no other synth are used, only drums and FX are not from Spire.

Wow, 11 loaded up, do you have a Cray supercomputer?

I'll check out the song after work

lavenderaudio · Post by **lavenderaudio** » Tue Jul 30, 2013 8:40 pm

Examigan wrote:
4damind wrote:Some output from the last hours while playing with the new Arp.
11x Spire and no other synth are used, only drums and FX are not from Spire.

Wow, 11 loaded up, do you have a Cray supercomputer?

I'll check out the song after work

Honestly I don't know why peoples are having such problems. I'm running 15+ Spire instances on a current project collaboration, my CPU doesn't spike above 30%, theirs doesn't have any issues either.

Anonym32339 · Post by **Anonym32339** » Tue Jul 30, 2013 8:43 pm

Wow what an support. Version 0.9.14 is released.

@ jamiesoarmusic: Same here... 15+ Instances no problem with my 2600K.

vega555 · Post by **vega555** » Tue Jul 30, 2013 8:44 pm

Spire Synthesizer v0.9.14
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- Fixed: Some issues in Arpeggiator

Aiynzahev · Post by **Aiynzahev** » Tue Jul 30, 2013 8:48 pm

I have to say I'm able to run Spire just fine here. Not too bad.

i5 2500k not over clocked. 3. something.

4damind · Post by **4damind** » Tue Jul 30, 2013 9:28 pm

I think it depends a bit how to arrange a song.
If somebody is using only "show room" sounds with Spire and play them from the start to the end without releasing the key, the CPU would "explode"

Similar with Diva.
I like more many smaller sounds and often they don't play together at the same time. If you stack many big sounds for layering, this can be a problem with synth like Spire.
Btw. in my small song the average VST load was about 40-55% and raises to >80% if some of the big sounds are played (i7 3770). But this higher load is only at 1-2 bars and because there is no big layering of similar sounds CPU is not a problem.

I think with some clever arranging/selecting of sounds you can run 20-30 instances of Spire without problems on a actual CPU.

Examigan · Post by **Examigan** » Tue Jul 30, 2013 10:46 pm

4damind wrote:I think it depends a bit how to arrange a song.
If somebody is using only "show room" sounds with Spire and play them from the start to the end without releasing the key, the CPU would "explode" Similar with Diva.

It sounds good, just listened to it finally

bmanic · Post by **bmanic** » Wed Jul 31, 2013 1:56 am

I'm having some serious problems with LFO's not running predictably. Sometimes they are in sync sometimes not. If I stop and start play in Reaper (windows 8 64bit) I get completely random results.

I have a simple Ta ta ta ta ta type Zimmer like movie score thick saw wave thingy going and it's extremely frustrating as it just doesn't keep sync. Especially in polyphonic mode, even though I trigger 3 notes exactly sample accurately on time, the LFO cycles do not line up, at all. They can be as much as a 16th note apart!

I don't think this is an issue in reaper because FabFilter Twin works just fine and triggers identically every single time.

This is a serious, SERIOUS issue and makes the LFO practically unusable as it is. I'll try to dig deeper and see if I can pinpoint the issue.

I'm running version 0.9.13 of Spire. Will see if the new update fixes anything.

By the way, I'm seriously impressed by the potential of the stepper and arp. Spire will rock!!

Cheers!
bManic

jenia · Post by **jenia** » Wed Jul 31, 2013 4:28 am

Where can i download v 0.9.14?

lavenderaudio · Post by **lavenderaudio** » Wed Jul 31, 2013 4:34 am

bmanic wrote:I'm having some serious problems with LFO's not running predictably. Sometimes they are in sync sometimes not. If I stop and start play in Reaper (windows 8 64bit) I get completely random results.

I have a simple Ta ta ta ta ta type Zimmer like movie score thick saw wave thingy going and it's extremely frustrating as it just doesn't keep sync. Especially in polyphonic mode, even though I trigger 3 notes exactly sample accurately on time, the LFO cycles do not line up, at all. They can be as much as a 16th note apart!

I don't think this is an issue in reaper because FabFilter Twin works just fine and triggers identically every single time.

This is a serious, SERIOUS issue and makes the LFO practically unusable as it is. I'll try to dig deeper and see if I can pinpoint the issue.

I'm running version 0.9.13 of Spire. Will see if the new update fixes anything.

By the way, I'm seriously impressed by the potential of the stepper and arp. Spire will rock!!

Cheers!
bManic

A tip from a score writer. When doing something like this, always use an envelope, not an LFO. You have much greater control over the shape of the sound, you can make it more percussive over time with automation, lengthen it, shorten it, and easily vary the rhythm to offbeat if you have an oddly placed cue in the score. With an LFO you're stuck to automating the rate value, and the limited 'amount' which you send to the filter or amp. This will also circumvent the problem until they look into it.

Honestly, I've had similar problems with Massive in the past, while usually reliable, the clock can get whacked out of sync. Usually not a problem on bounce down, but there you go.

zvenx · Post by **zvenx** » Wed Jul 31, 2013 4:46 am

Now that the features are all there, is there now a date until which the current intro price will hold?
Thanks
Rsp