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Aloysius · Post by **Aloysius** » Fri Aug 23, 2013 11:57 am

7AMP Peak Sustainer.

http://7amp.net/software/compressor?id=87

Boss have a Hardware CS-3 Compression, Sustainer Foot Pedal.

sorohanro · Post by **sorohanro** » Fri Aug 23, 2013 12:04 pm

To get more sustain on a real amp, put the reverb pedal before the overdrive/distortion.
On a virtual amp might work as well. You can experiment with a transient designer plugin before the vst amp.

Dean Aka Nekro · Post by **Dean Aka Nekro** » Fri Aug 23, 2013 12:08 pm

Swallowed by Digitech/Harman lfm in 2002, It was a subsidiary of IRRC. Although I am not sure whether Digitech went on to use any of John Johnson's algos in their modelling stuff. Maybe Teksonik knows

The best info is the old but still up website:
http://www.johnson-amp.com/history.htm

Hope that helps

lfm · Post by **lfm** » Fri Aug 23, 2013 12:16 pm

Dean Aka Nekro wrote:Swallowed by Digitech/Harman lfm in 2002, It was a subsidiary of IRRC. Although I am not sure whether Digitech went on to use any of John Johnson's algos in their modelling stuff. Maybe Teksonik knows

The best info is the old but still up website:
http://www.johnson-amp.com/history.htm

Hope that helps

Thank you, I see - they were good enough to be bought up.

Maybe technology is in my old RP100 then.

There's an old boutique wah in that one that I like, so I kept it.

Dean Aka Nekro · Post by **Dean Aka Nekro** » Fri Aug 23, 2013 12:47 pm

It could well be, If Harman/Digitech had claims on it then it would seem daft to not utilize it I agree. Their modelling did get a lot better/advanced after Johnson stopped also (I know, With technology advancements it could well be coincidence but usually there is no such thing). They did it with DOD and as I have a few of the old DOD pedals which DigiTech "reissued" well they sounded no where near the same. Its the DOD Grunge and Death Metal distortion pedals I am referring to, The DigiTech version of the Grunge is in particular awful. Its strange that its called Grunge also as its more suitable for really filthy Grind than it is for mudhoney and such type fuzz

Tubeman · Post by **Tubeman** » Fri Aug 23, 2013 6:10 pm

Teksonik wrote:
Tubeman wrote:Post a sample of the J-Station?
I might try that when I get home tonight......

Tubeman wrote:You are using different input with the J-Station though than with amp sims and it can affect the sound greatly.
Think about what you wrote again.....you'll realize that it's not correct....What input should one use with vst Amp Sims anyway ?

I assumed you are using your soundcard's hi-Z input for VST amp sims. I've never used the J-station so no idea how well it works as a DI. I believe it's 16-bit at least. The first PODs kinda sucked as a DI though.

Teksonik · Post by **Teksonik** » Fri Aug 23, 2013 10:49 pm

lfm wrote:
How is J-station different from Line6 POD's?

Their series of amps and stuff seems to have the same principles - digital modelling and hi wattage full range amps.

Thanks.

To be honest I've never tried a Pod although I've always wanted one version or another. I hope to find out some day.....I have a V Amp 2 and it sucks bad IMHO...currently on the "for sale or trade" list

I don't really know a lot about the J Station. I just remember picking mine up new at Guitar Center some years ago and fell in love with the sound ( Rectified). For the record I don't really care about emulations I only care how something sounds and I like the sound I'm getting from the J Station. Like I said others may hate it......and if they do and want to sell theirs.....

I've never been able to come even close with any combination of vst's.......perhaps that's my fault but I've given it a pretty good effort.

Teksonik · Post by **Teksonik** » Fri Aug 23, 2013 10:52 pm

Tubeman wrote:
Teksonik wrote:
Tubeman wrote:Post a sample of the J-Station?
I might try that when I get home tonight......

Tubeman wrote:You are using different input with the J-Station though than with amp sims and it can affect the sound greatly.
Think about what you wrote again.....you'll realize that it's not correct....What input should one use with vst Amp Sims anyway ?
I assumed you are using your soundcard's hi-Z input for VST amp sims. I've never used the J-station so no idea how well it works as a DI. I believe it's 16-bit at least. The first PODs kinda sucked as a DI though.

I've also tried my guitar run through a Mixer without the J Station and got the same results........not the same sustain from vst Amp Sims......again I'd love for someone to prove me wrong........I'm about to respond to the post further up.......

Teksonik · Post by **Teksonik** » Fri Aug 23, 2013 10:54 pm

Aloysius wrote:7AMP Peak Sustainer.

http://7amp.net/software/compressor?id=87

Damn the 7Amp site is kicking up a Site Advisory from McAfee......I'd like to try it with AT3. Is it 64 bit as well ? It's not showing up in the KVR Database.

Aloysius · Post by **Aloysius** » Fri Aug 23, 2013 11:02 pm

^

I downloaded it earlier but haven't tried it out yet. The PC version seems to be 32bit only. It comes as a VST and a Standalone.

BTW the NEWS page says: 06.06.2013 VBA32 antivirus false alarm on some of 7AMP effects executables.

Tubeman · Post by **Tubeman** » Sat Aug 24, 2013 7:26 am

Teksonik wrote:I've also tried my guitar run through a Mixer without the J Station and got the same results........not the same sustain from vst Amp Sims......again I'd love for someone to prove me wrong........I'm about to respond to the post further up.......

How about if you post a sample of both the J-station and the amp sim it would be easier starting point. Make a SoundCloud account it's free and you can embed it on this thread. No excuses not to make sound examples these days anymore.

Teksonik · Post by **Teksonik** » Sat Aug 24, 2013 11:38 am

Tubeman wrote: How about if you post a sample of both the J-station and the amp sim it would be easier starting point. Make a SoundCloud account it's free and you can embed it on this thread. No excuses not to make sound examples these days anymore.

Wait a minute......explain to me why am I obligated to make sound examples ? This thread which I didn't start is about creating sustain with vst Amp Sims. Why doesn't someone like you for example post a sound example and a patch using AT Metal that shows it's possible ? I don't think I have any burden of proof......

Tubeman · Post by **Tubeman** » Sat Aug 24, 2013 1:45 pm

Teksonik wrote:
Tubeman wrote: How about if you post a sample of both the J-station and the amp sim it would be easier starting point. Make a SoundCloud account it's free and you can embed it on this thread. No excuses not to make sound examples these days anymore.
Wait a minute......explain to me why am I obligated to make sound examples ? This thread which I didn't start is about creating sustain with vst Amp Sims. Why doesn't someone like you for example post a sound example and a patch using AT Metal that shows it's possible ? I don't think I have any burden of proof......

Because without hearing the J-Station I don't know what you mean by long sustain. You are making blank a statement "amp sims don't have sustain". Why are you so against posting a sound example what you're after? I can sure do the amp sim if you post a DI file and you run it through the J-Station I run it through an amp sim. Deal?

rcat · Post by **rcat** » Sat Aug 24, 2013 3:41 pm

Not sure if this has been mentioned, but there's a "sweet spot" in the distance between the pickups/pickup poles and the strings that will allow maximum sustain for the guitar's part. This can be difficult to find and takes some effort, but it is well worth it.

hibidy · Post by **hibidy** » Sat Aug 24, 2013 7:04 pm

How to get more sustain out of an Amp Sim?