How to get more sustain out of an Amp Sim?

[Teksonik]

Ok it's become painfully obvious that the following it true so I'm done:

but dont expect me doing some patches for you because

Because......you can't ?

To the OP sorry again and I hope you find the answers you seek......

[kvaca]

I've never been able to get any sustain out of AT Metal...enlighten me as to the magic secrets you have discovered...and no it's not my guitar...

we are moving in circles.. yes,it IS your guitar which primarily creates sustain
hint for you: get fernandez guitar > switch sustainer on > enjoy infinite sustain with Amplitube metal /any patch.../

It is only you who are chasing your tail my friend.....do you not understand that I AM GETTING SUSTAIN WITH MY GUITAR ? See my edit above.....and also for the record I don't need infinite 30 second sustain.........

who is talking about 30 seconds??
Im not a mathematician, but 30 secods isnt infinite
so maybe I have better explanation for you:INFINITE = AS LONG AS YOU NEED

to OP - please go get some old J Station...because:
-its the only ampsim with decent sustain
-Teksonik will be happy

[lfm]

How does your guitar signal make it in to your computer ?

I went external tube amps combined with some tube based preamps. Some power soak solution with added di-box with cabinet sim as well. So before entering digital domain it's a bit compressed already.

You come quite a bit further with just a tube based preamp before entering computer. You will also get a natural phatter signal into computer making ampsims sound better. (The only plugin I found doing that pretty well is SimulAnalog Twin plugin which was part of a free set of sims - it really brought a Twin phatter warm signal.)

I did that hybrid some years ago - and ran either amp+cabinet sim - or just cabinet sim.

I find that almost most of character is built by speaker cabinets. So check out the thread with Torpedo WIII or what it's called. I'm a bit curious on that one too - but don't save on the cabinets, it's really once you try you know what fits better. I experimented a lot with Izotope Trash 10 years ago - and cabinets are vital.

And the most interesting part of a preamp is ability with a sweepable frequency parametric EQ as prestage(or possibly a graphic eq pedal) doing shaping of signal that enter tube stage. I have that on a Damage Control Womanizer - and it's really neat. They really got that right.

This shaping together with different speaker cabinets is what I figured out the last years will make you create almost any guitar tone you like.

The preshaping is really making you decide which frequencies are saturated first of tone in tubes - and generate a particular set of harmonics. Then post eq balance it out for you.

Have fun....

[Tubeman]

I simply issued a challenge for anybody to create a patch using AT 3 Metal that has the same sustain with a Rectified amp sim.......

Impossible. We are not mind readers. You are asking for the same sustain as the J-Station, yet you refuse to post a sound example of it so we would have an idea what you mean...

Oh for God's sake if you don't know what sustain is then go find a thread where you do have a working knowledge of the subject.....

Guys I think this dude is just trolling us...

I wouldn't be suprised if there were a few "vintage" J-Stations "with huge sustain no amp sim can do" on Ebay for a high price.