Countdown to Sample Tank 3, with 64 bit support

[Teksonik]

3. We also have made no decision about a Custom Shop for SampleTank at this point either.

Hmmm that doesn't bode well....it seems like this decision will have to made before coding can continue.

Don't read too much into it. We're not divulging a lot of information at this point, as you can see.

Well there is a lot of difference between "we haven't decided yet" and "we've decided but aren't going to tell you yet".........

I'd much rather have no information than misleading or incorrect information........

[Peter - IK Multimedia]

Nothing misleading about what I said. I hope it didn't seem that way. I give all the information I can, and hey I didn't start this countdown

[kodebode2]

The samples for iGrand Piano for iPad are derived directly from SampleTank 3 sounds.

I can't wait. Thanks ever so much. On another note I suspected something was up when I passed up the offer to buy ST2 for about 30 dollars recently.

I'd like to hear ST3 demos, with lots of exciting presets. I'm a preset man, more about the music than tweaking. Those who play real instruments focus on the playing.

If ST3 allows me to simply play and hear good quality - production ready sounds, at a reasonable price, then that's great.

[kodebode2]

My only question is will the promised 64 bit free player be launched alongside the paid new version, or will we have to wait longer for the free player?

And I wonder if Philharmonik will also get a 64 bit version. Since it is built on the same engine (I believe) that should be no big deal and would be highly appreciated.

Its time to retire these old favorites in emperors new clothes, 15 years ago these were the bees knees, no more. Their sale shoudl be discontinued... Period.

Why - no matter how cheap they sell for, the quality is simply not work paying anything for them. It's more about squeezing the last buck from this dinosaur - an unfortunate business ethic. Buyer beware.

[pheeleep]

For certain music styles, IK VST'i's are still very good. Hip hop comes to mind. I will still be using these sounds for years to come. I do plan on buying ST3 (I bought ST2 the day it came out, for $399 I believe) and look forward to the new engine and new sounds as well. but there will still be room for a lot of these "older sounds" in people's music.

[BBFG#]

Their sale shoudl be discontinued... Period....
It's more about squeezing the last buck from this dinosaur - an unfortunate business ethic. Buyer beware.

Considering I'm getting all of their VIs for less than $120.00 it seems more like a give away introduction into a new era right around the corner.

Dinosaur? Oh yeah, those dinosaur samples everyone wants are there too.
I've found sounds that are everybit worth it in these VI's, because great sounds just don't go out of style.

The 'mud slinging' ethic is what I find most unfortunate.

[Teksonik]

Nothing misleading about what I said. I hope it didn't seem that way. I give all the information I can, and hey I didn't start this countdown

No you didn't start the countdown but you did say "we've made no decision". That could give the impression that ST3 is farther off than we imagine. But like I said before it's a good thing that users care enough to start a countdown no matter how unrealistic it may be...it means they like the product and are anticipating it's next version. It would be worse if you never saw any posts about ST3......it might mean people had given up and moved on to something else.....

[BBFG#]

Considering there are people who are getting Peter to talk about different products (i.e. Custom Shop, etc.) and then applying the answer for those separate products on to the SampleTank3 release to make it appear false, really seems as though it's just a different way to attack the whole company agnosis.

Why not give it the 125 days to find out first?

[xtrouble]

Considering there are people who are getting Peter to talk about different products (i.e. Custom Shop, etc.) and then applying the answer for those separate products on to the SampleTank3 release to make it appear false, really seems as though it's just a different way to attack the whole company agnosis.

Why not give it the 125 days to find out first?

I asked if ST3 would use the Custom Shop model (as they applied firstly to Amplitube, and then T-Racks), I was not attempting to make any sort of attack on the company or it's products.

For your information, I asked as I have 600+ credits from being carried along on the crest of the group buy last year, and still want something to use them on.

It seem as if you need a ra-ra skirt and a "GO IK" pom-pom to be honest. I think they are quite capable (and sarky !!) enough to take care of themselves , without your ankle nipping, and offence taking as well.

[Teksonik]

Considering there are people who are getting Peter to talk about different products (i.e. Custom Shop, etc.) and then applying the answer for those separate products on to the SampleTank3 release to make it appear false, really seems as though it's just a different way to attack the whole company agnosis.

Why not give it the 125 days to find out first?

What a silly post.....Custom Shop isn't a "product" it's a feature that's already included in Amplitube and T-Racks. Asking if that same feature will be included in ST3 is a perfectly logical and legitimate question. Asking if the other SampleTank engine products (Philharmonik, Sonic Synth etc) will get the same upgrade is also a logical question. I don't see any "attacks" in those inquiries.

[Peter - IK Multimedia]

My only question is will the promised 64 bit free player be launched alongside the paid new version, or will we have to wait longer for the free player?

And I wonder if Philharmonik will also get a 64 bit version. Since it is built on the same engine (I believe) that should be no big deal and would be highly appreciated.

Its time to retire these old favorites in emperors new clothes, 15 years ago these were the bees knees, no more. Their sale shoudl be discontinued... Period.

Why - no matter how cheap they sell for, the quality is simply not work paying anything for them. It's more about squeezing the last buck from this dinosaur - an unfortunate business ethic. Buyer beware.

Really? People are VERY interested in one specific feature of SampleTank 3, perhaps above almost all others: "Will it import previous libraries?" and it will because these are not sounds that deserve to be discontinued at all and they stand up in many genres and projects (not just hip hop but I appreciate that observation too, as it is definitely more than valid - 8 Mile pianos from ST come to mind when I think of SampleTank and hip hop but that discounts the many users we have making more current hip hop and loving the Powered By SampleTank line).

I understand that you have your right to your opinion but based on the feedback we are getting, these libraries are not dinosaurs and should not be discontinued at all based on the very clear reason I state above. Sometimes fairly passionate and vehement opinions can cloud what should be clearly seen as an objective and market data-driven decision. That's not just good business ethic (contrary to your opinion to which you are entitled) but basic business acumen.

Does this sound bad? I think Miroslav Philharmonik is wildly underrated (though it may be the most popular choice in the Group Buy at the moment so people still do like it):


Plus, if you don't feel they are worth paying for you do have the right to simply not buy them.

[BBFG#]

What I do know is that I only wanted MSO, downloaded ST free while waiting for it to come back on sale. Picked up ST2 when it went on sale for $39.00 and jumped on MSO when I saw it for half price. Now they have given me SS2 & SMoog & it looks like I'll be getting STron on this deal soon on this deal, just for getting MSO. Everyone of them work great on my 64b OS & DAW and everyone of them have far exceeded my expectations. And some have used this great group buy sale to declare the products as worthless. Or they demand everything to come up to their expectations immediately and all at once.

Yeah, I think it's a great product.
Very useful sounds.

125 days to go on the countdown.
And only 74 more buyers before I get it all for less than $120.00.

[neverenoughfunk]

i am just waiting for the price structure. there are going to be some users very unhappy. whether the individuals that brought Sampletank at the orginal price or those who brought with group buys. i understand Peter's thinking... "if you brought Sampletank at its orginal price then you should of gotten your monies worth out of the product"... but for me buying Sampletank at the orginal price has me under the belief that i was there when they first started out i.e. helped with the building of the company. therefore, i would not pay more than $99 upgrade price/fee and would be hurt if the individuals that brought Sampletank during a group buy got the same discount of $99. i am very interested in how IK Multimedia is going to handle this!!!

more on pricing... Kontakt is $400 but if you were going to buy Kontakt you just as well buy Komplete instead (only a few dollars more when brought on sale i.e. guitar center $75 off anything over $400). Halion Sonic is $249 and the update is $99. MOTU's MachFive 3 is $459 but could crossgrade to MachFive 3 from Sampletank for $259. that is right, you could buy Sampletank at the group buy for $69 and then crossgrade to MachFive 3 for $259. that is still more than $100 less than the orginal MachFive 3 price ($459).

for me, i just waiting for the price structure. both Kontakt and MachFive have other developers designing sounds for these products. Steinberg has created a couple of sound banks for Halion Sonic. how is Sampletank 3 going to handle this. again, the pricing structure is going to be very interesting...

forgot to add... Sampletank 3 is a re-write... those other products i.e. kontakt, MachFive and Halion Sonic have been thru their growing pains. i know no one thinks that Sampletank 3 is going to be bug free? right? i cant wait to see Sampletank 3 come out... the answers to what type of company IK Multimedia is will be answered on that day!!!

[BBFG#]

Pricing structure:
$69.99 for a VI of your choice.
3 more VI's free.
20+GB of samples/sounds
(And if you get it from esoundz you get another 3-4GB of samples/sounds.)

Who would be unhappy jumping on this deal?

Add/edit: Another thing about Kontakt. You could wait another year for them to discount it 50% like they did a month or so ago. 43GB of samples, although I haven't found as many of them as usable as I've found on ST2. The best libraries for kontakt are as much as kontakt itself.

Mach(x)& Halion?... don't forget to add the price of the ilok to it.

Second add/edit:
IKM has been showing themself as a company trying to listen and discussing what they plan/need to do.

[neverenoughfunk]

Pricing structure:
$69.99 for a VI of your choice.
3 more VI's free.
20+GB of samples/sounds
(And if you get it from esoundz you get another 3-4GB of samples/sounds.)

Who would be unhappy jumping on this deal?

to answer your question... ME!!!

i rather have the quality of the other products on the market than have the quantity of the Sampletank line up...

but will admit... if this was my first week of being a "producer" and was looking for sounds (on a budget)... the group buy is a no-brainer... but that is not the case for me!!