Melody that fits acapella?

[stringtapper]

It's the progression to the "Starlight" acapella you posted in the other thread. You said this new one was also in B major so I assumed it was the same. Haven't listen to the other one.

[jontah]

It's the progression to the "Starlight" acapella you posted in the other thread. You said this new one was also in B major so I assumed it was the same. Haven't listen to the other one.

oohhh, yeha that one was appearantly in B major as well.

This chord progression works well with this one too lol.

Although I think it begins with B major chord this time instead of a G#m

[psychoxkps]

vocals you do last when you writing song usualy so invert your progress:)

[JumpingJackFlash]

The easiest way to do stuff like this is just to use your ears.

But you said you tried that and it wasn't helping.

So then the other avenue is studying harmony. Preferably get a teacher, or if not, get a good book or two and learn from the basics on up. As with all skills, it takes time to master it, and you shouldn't run before you can walk.

This for example is a good harmony book that contains everything you need to know. I think you can still get it half price if you agree not to photocopy it.

Simply sticking to the notes of the key is no guarantee of getting something that sounds good. It's much more complicated than that. People spend literally years studying this kind of thing!

[jancivil]

Any tips and tricks for writing a NEW melody?

What you're looking for is called counterpoint (countermelody works too). Before you do that you'll need to find some chord changes that fit the existing melody, and it might be a good idea to already have a bassline filled in.

Failing that, do what a lot of people do, use your ears and trial and error. If the acapella doesn't have complex key changes and stays fairly pedestrian that should be fairly easy.

OK so how do I know the chord changes to begin with?... So, first step: HOW DO I figure that out? any tips and trick on that?

This isn't just for you, as I've tried to convey this to you a number of times and it never registered.

I have no idea how do you 'figure that out'. When one does to get to the point they know how, they've established a foundation; they have an ear they got from some work and they have a coherent understanding of the mechanics. Such as someone gave you the very typical progression that lay underneath that tune. They know what that progression is out of some experience you seem kind of averse to getting. In favor of canvassing the internet for tips and tricks.

This is a mistake, looking for tips and tricks from people online, in preference to getting down to getting your chops together in a coherent manner. You are not actually ready to be writing counterpoint. You will not really be able to stand on KVR people's backs and obtain the grasp for it. You're essentially crawling around randomly but somehow it's time to sprint to the goal.

"Counterpoint"; historically, counterpoint preceded 'harmony writing' as we know it. The whole concept of harmony grew from felicitous occurrences out of the art of putting lines together. How is your improvisational ability coming up with lines? What experience do you bring to this? How much music have you listened to deeply that was made by masters of counterpoint?

You should recognize common chord progressions readily. There is no "tip" coming that makes that available. You don't have the experience for it. What business do you have writing music at this stage, having such an inchoate grasp of the basics? Take a course in theory from a solid teacher somewhere. Play music, real music, for some years and get to where things click; there are conventions, common progressions such as I indicate above that should be perfectly obvious to you, long before you 'write'. Writers of prose get their syntax together, and they've read and analyzed much literature. Since this evidently doesn't come naturally to you, you need a foundation under you that's going to take some time, if it ever happens.

So, this whole tack rather exceeds asking specific questions. You're asking for a lot (& all at one time) but you aren't taking home a lot. There is a point where you have to get these things together on your own.

[stringtapper]

It's the progression to the "Starlight" acapella you posted in the other thread. You said this new one was also in B major so I assumed it was the same. Haven't listen to the other one.

oohhh, yeha that one was appearantly in B major as well.

This chord progression works well with this one too lol.

Although I think it begins with B major chord this time instead of a G#m

If this is the piece you're talking about:

http://www70.zippyshare.com/v/41762693/file.html

Then the bass line you've got is I-vi-IV-V in B major. Similar to the other acapella, same chords, just a different progression. It's the old "Heart and Soul" progression.

[jancivil]

I like that you want to 'write a countermelody' jontah, but just go and do it. Make your own mistakes.

The thing you need is a working model and to live with it, absorb it in real experience with it. I remember when I first tried to get JS Bach from looking at scores. I didn't. I played JS Bach for jury and I got to write an analysis for a grade. I can totally sound like that now. I was a musician for a solid ten years before I figured it's time for me to write. The internet has fostered a sort of illusory mindset, people think there's a tips and tricks post right around the corner that will totally sort them, and this quick facility happens to people that may not even be built to compose music.

[chickenhide]

Didn't read every post so I don't know if I'm repeating myself but in my experience, if you're working with a vocal track and trying to make a melody with it, the best way to start is to put down the bass notes / chords and work from there. You could also download the MIDI of the original melody and change it to your liking but I'd consider that slightly cheating in a way