Composition books, tutorials, videos?

[Tricky-Loops]

I haven't found the term "back stepping" anywhere but in control technology...

[stringtapper]

Whereas melodic sequencing can move upward or downward. Back stepping is specifically downward. Also as "sequencing" has a different meaning for those who use sequencers to build "loops" of the same phrase repeated exactly without variation "melodic sequencing" does not apply to

The term is a "sequence," be it melodic or harmonic. I don't think I've ever seen a textbook or scholarly article use the inflected form (with the suffix '-ing') when describing a sequence in a piece of music as the term "sequencing" has a bit of a mathematical or scientific tinge to it (think biochemistry, DNA sequencing, etc.).

[Hink]

Counterpoint by John Collins is a good read imo and has practical exercises as well.

[stringtapper]

I haven't found the term "back stepping" anywhere but in control technology...

And Google doesn't seem to find it anywhere except another post by tapper mike from 2012:

http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/printview ... 12&start=0

(searched for: backstepping melody)

[datroof]

Frankly, sometimes it goes a long way in helping a forum run smoothly by not saying some things. If you don't like a thread, simply don't bother reading it.

Yeah, but if I do that, how can I protect my turf? How can I prove that I'm the alpha know-it-all? Surely you see the dilemma.

[Tricky-Loops]

Saw someone raving about this

http://www.synthesiagame.com/


Looks interesting, but I haven't tried it myself yet.

I cannot get warm with it, these flying MIDI bars are confusing me...

As a child, I learned keyboard with Bontempi score booklets, I remember they had a better method... But after some time I kicked the Bontempi booklets in the bin because I don't wanted to play "Oh Suzanna" the 100th time...

(And this damned Bontempi keyboard always sounded so worse, it made me loosing my interest in music for many years! )

[Hink]

Frankly, sometimes it goes a long way in helping a forum run smoothly by not saying some things. If you don't like a thread, simply don't bother reading it.

Yeah, but if I do that, how can I protect my turf? How can I prove that I'm the alpha know-it-all? Surely you see the dilemma.

[bharris22]

I was looking for something similar a few days ago and found this:

http://amzn.com/0226732169

It seems to be a good collection of exercises . . . .

[tapper mike]

There are several terms used by musicians that don't often find there way on to popular reading or easy searches.

Like.. Bumping.
A bump note is a lead in tone that is generally a half step above or below that leads into the chord tone.
http://betweenthelicks.com/blues-guitar ... bass-lines

Bassists are familiar with calling it a bump though it's not limited to bassists.


Bumping is a colloquial term for using approach notes that are usually a half step above or below the target chord tone.

[stringtapper]

Whilst I'm not for trying to rename note values. Much of contemporary popular music (over the last 100 years) has been written by itinerate musicians. Along the way they have introduced different definitions either from lack or classical training or to accommodate a "novel" approach which later become standardized. Terms like "Bumping" and "Dive Bomb" for example.

Glissando/Gliss is a glide from one pitch to another. It is an Italianized musical term derived from the French glisser, to glide. In some contexts it is distinguished from the continuous portamento. Some colloquial equivalents are slide, sweep (referring to the 'discreet glissando' effects on guitar & harp respectively), bend, slide, or 'smear'.

The "colloquial" equivalents are actually more specific to circumstance then the generic traditional term. As a slide, a sweep/rake and a bend are quite different and rather specific.

And the entire reason that formalized musical terminology exists is to avoid this kind of "street" talk that can mean any number of things. Just look at the state of jazz chord nomenclature for example. There are tons of different standards for labeling chords, some tied to geographic regions or specific teachers or schools, but no real consensus. If one doesn't see themselves playing more than one style and playing with certain musicians in the same vein then yeah, street terminology will probably work just fine. But if someone wants to get as in depth as possible with music and to explore as many styles as possible then learning some established terminology is going to be in their best interest.

Imagine trying to learn grammar from someone who calls direct objects "rizzemflaps"…!

Ok "backstepping" isn't quite that bad, but I would suggest that if you're insistent upon using it when teaching or writing that you're at least consistent and clear with how you describe it. In your post in this thread and the post from 2012 I cited above you variably say that backstepping has the melody reiterate a line starting from the note "behind" or that it "goes back one note," etc.

[jancivil]

Frankly, sometimes it goes a long way in helping a forum run smoothly by not saying some things. If you don't like a thread, simply don't bother reading it.

Yeah, but if I do that, how can I protect my turf? How can I prove that I'm the alpha know-it-all? Surely you see the dilemma.

and you couldn't resist saying that, and Hink can't resist that gesture. I'll acknowledge my fault, I should absolutely not do that, because it has to do with me and trickyloops. I don't need to prove a f**king thing at f**king KVR. That's your problem. However since I have done a lot here to help people while you have done mostly this, I did somehow feel as free as tricky did to share my opinion.

[stringtapper]

There are several terms used by musicians that don't often find there way on to popular reading or easy searches.

Like.. Bumping.
A bump note is a lead in tone that is generally a half step above or below that leads into the chord tone.
http://betweenthelicks.com/blues-guitar ... bass-lines

Bassists are familiar with calling it a bump though it's not limited to bassists.


Bumping is a colloquial term for using approach notes that are usually a half step above or below the target chord tone.

Yeah most jazz educators I know (and I know a few) call those "approach tones."

In jazz bass playing there's the concept of an "enclosure" where a goal note is preceded by two approach tones on either side of it, either diatonically or chromatically.

[jancivil]

I'm buffaloed by 'bump' and 'backstep'; if they described a slide as a slide, like that, it's one thing but this is slang to me. I don't think an approach tone 'bumps', I don't see how a sequence at a lower level steps or goes back. I don't much care, carry on with it but this is rather obscure lingo out of what seems like a subculture and maybe it's best to use the known terms rather than be too hip.

[stringtapper]

I look at it as a matter of clarity, which is what people learning music (or anything for that matter) need. When using language to describe musical concepts something like "bump" could mean just about anything. I get that it means something along the lines of a bump that occurs in the "road" on the way to the goal note, but I also have enough experience with melodic construction to glean that from the term, whereas a beginner might not.

[tapper mike]

Whilst I'm not for trying to rename note values. Much of contemporary popular music (over the last 100 years) has been written by itinerate musicians. Along the way they have introduced different definitions either from lack or classical training or to accommodate a "novel" approach which later become standardized. Terms like "Bumping" and "Dive Bomb" for example.

Glissando/Gliss is a glide from one pitch to another. It is an Italianized musical term derived from the French glisser, to glide. In some contexts it is distinguished from the continuous portamento. Some colloquial equivalents are slide, sweep (referring to the 'discreet glissando' effects on guitar & harp respectively), bend, slide, or 'smear'.

The "colloquial" equivalents are actually more specific to circumstance then the generic traditional term. As a slide, a sweep/rake and a bend are quite different and rather specific.

And the entire reason that formalized musical terminology exists is to avoid this kind of "street" talk that can mean any number of things. Just look at the state of jazz chord nomenclature for example. There are tons of different standards for labeling chords, some tied to geographic regions or specific teachers or schools, but no real consensus. If one doesn't see themselves playing more than one style and playing with certain musicians in the same vein then yeah, street terminology will probably work just fine. But if someone wants to get as in depth as possible with music and to explore as many styles as possible then learning some established terminology is going to be in their best interest.

But as I've already explained Glissando can be any of those equivalents in practice but they are quite different to one another. The terms Sweep/rake slide or bend are specific to the technique were as the term Glissando is not specific to the technique for guitarists or those who use various methods and devices on contemporary midi controllers to affect those changes. (like the touch strip or bend wheel) Surely the point of definition is clarity. To an approach a specified bend sweep or slide is a more accurate description to the action involved then Gliss.

In as far as jazz chord nomenclature. I've always found it explicit. A m7b5 chord is exactly that, a chord built with a minor third a 7th and a flat 5th. If I see it written in a song I may or may not omit the 5th. But I know if I were to play the 5th to play it as a flattened 5th.