is it true that acid music labels wont accept music with 303 vst or pianoroll sequencing?
- KVRAF
- 5745 posts since 11 Feb, 2005 from Bordeaux France
They also don't accept music made by nerds, geeks, hipsters, normal people, blondes, redheads, brunettes. It's getting hard.
You can't always get what you waaaant...
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AstralExistence AstralExistence https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=265049
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 2276 posts since 19 Sep, 2011
well i had to ask, even though i know i would sound stupid. 'better to ask a question in stupidity then to not ask in stupidity' that's my quote 
- KVRAF
- 6213 posts since 25 Dec, 2004
nah man, it's valid, i actually DO know twats like that. I wonder how they're getting on now that software is almost indistinguishable?...
REALITY IS ACTUALLY DIGITAL
REALITY IS ACTUALLY DIGITAL
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some artists i support... https://bandcamp.com/spectraselecta
some artists i support... https://bandcamp.com/spectraselecta
- Banned
- 10196 posts since 12 Mar, 2012 from the Bavarian Alps to my feet and the globe around my head
Is it true that I need real LSD while listening to real Acid music made with real hardware on real reels?
Won't they accept me if I drink Vodka Lemon instead?
Won't they accept me if I drink Vodka Lemon instead?
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- KVRian
- 928 posts since 10 Jan, 2010
and you have to have owned it at least 10 years, and bought it from some poor sod for $50 who found it was pants for his bossa nova cover band....
(why not? maybe they get so many submissions, it's a way of prefiltering, keeping out the riff raff...)
(why not? maybe they get so many submissions, it's a way of prefiltering, keeping out the riff raff...)
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- KVRAF
- 15135 posts since 7 Sep, 2008
Because they can tell the difference.chroma wrote:(why not? maybe they get so many submissions, it's a way of prefiltering, keeping out the riff raff...)
Their words, not mine.
That said, a major part of the 303 acid sound is down to the sequencer.
So banging a few notes into a piano roll on Sylenth may come up short.
I *might* be able to identify that wasnt a 303, but I'd never know if ABL or Phoscyon was used.
But anyway who gives a damn. It's acid FFS, not jazz.
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"Oooh I dont know. Sounds a bit scary"
"It's not scary. You just lose a sense of who you are and all that sh!t"
"Oooh I dont know. Sounds a bit scary"
"It's not scary. You just lose a sense of who you are and all that sh!t"
- KVRAF
- 5223 posts since 20 Jul, 2010
Never understood that kind of snobbery. Good music is good music. If you're thinking "the music is OK but this would be better if it were a real 303" then the music isn't capturing your imagination. Mediocre music made on classic equipment isn't worth bothering with. You should hear what people can do with Synth1 
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- KVRAF
- 15135 posts since 7 Sep, 2008
Sendy wrote:You should hear what people can do with Synth1
"I was wondering if you'd like to try Magic Mushrooms"
"Oooh I dont know. Sounds a bit scary"
"It's not scary. You just lose a sense of who you are and all that sh!t"
"Oooh I dont know. Sounds a bit scary"
"It's not scary. You just lose a sense of who you are and all that sh!t"
- Beware the Quoth
- 35531 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair
- KVRAF
- 2611 posts since 4 Sep, 2006 from 127.0.0.1
yes it matters, the good emulations have a built-in sequencer for a reasonAstralExistence wrote: oh ok. i was a bit confused by that statement myself. i mean sure that would apply 10 years ago when vsti were in there infancy but with today's 'arguably' realistic sounding vst/au/rack extension units its not nearly as strong an argument over using those vs using a real tb303 and sequencer. sure, the tb303 with sequencer will sound more authentic (does it matter if i use a pianoroll vs writing notes in the sequencer/matrix? is one better then the other? tips?) but a music listener wont care how its created if its a good song?
the built-in sequencer is highly limited in the way it fires notes, there are certain rules, which you don't have to know about but they are there all the time
if you use a piano-roll, it is very likely to break those rules, which would result in a weird sounding pattern, and anyone who is familiar with 303s will know that there's something weird about your "303 line"
so if you want to stick to the 303 sound - use the built-in sequencer (plus, it's much more fun that way, and that's what it's all about)
It doesn't matter how it sounds..
..as long as it has BASS and it's LOUD!
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..as long as it has BASS and it's LOUD!
irc.libera.chat >>> #kvr
- addled muppet weed
- 111343 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
what about acid jazz?Mushy Mushy wrote: But anyway who gives a damn. It's acid FFS, not jazz.
thats both!
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- KVRAF
- 15135 posts since 7 Sep, 2008
Ssssh youvurt wrote:what about acid jazz?Mushy Mushy wrote: But anyway who gives a damn. It's acid FFS, not jazz.
thats both!
"I was wondering if you'd like to try Magic Mushrooms"
"Oooh I dont know. Sounds a bit scary"
"It's not scary. You just lose a sense of who you are and all that sh!t"
"Oooh I dont know. Sounds a bit scary"
"It's not scary. You just lose a sense of who you are and all that sh!t"
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AstralExistence AstralExistence https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=265049
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 2276 posts since 19 Sep, 2011
i agree with the pianoroll. it just doesnt sound realistic. so i spent this morning learning how to use the phoscyon sequnecer. it took a bit of understanding but now i know its done. if people want to make acid, they should at least learn how to use a 303 sequencer. its like night and day vs a piano roll.antto wrote:yes it matters, the good emulations have a built-in sequencer for a reasonAstralExistence wrote: oh ok. i was a bit confused by that statement myself. i mean sure that would apply 10 years ago when vsti were in there infancy but with today's 'arguably' realistic sounding vst/au/rack extension units its not nearly as strong an argument over using those vs using a real tb303 and sequencer. sure, the tb303 with sequencer will sound more authentic (does it matter if i use a pianoroll vs writing notes in the sequencer/matrix? is one better then the other? tips?) but a music listener wont care how its created if its a good song?
the built-in sequencer is highly limited in the way it fires notes, there are certain rules, which you don't have to know about but they are there all the time
if you use a piano-roll, it is very likely to break those rules, which would result in a weird sounding pattern, and anyone who is familiar with 303s will know that there's something weird about your "303 line"
so if you want to stick to the 303 sound - use the built-in sequencer (plus, it's much more fun that way, and that's what it's all about)
- KVRAF
- 5223 posts since 20 Jul, 2010
When I first heard acid jazz I was immediately disappointed with what seemed like a total lack of both acid and jazz.vurt wrote:what about acid jazz?Mushy Mushy wrote: But anyway who gives a damn. It's acid FFS, not jazz.
thats both!
http://sendy.bandcamp.com/releases < My new album at Bandcamp! Now pay what you like!
- addled muppet weed
- 111343 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
everytime you say that jaykay kills a hatSendy wrote:When I first heard acid jazz I was immediately disappointed with what seemed like a total lack of both acid and jazz.vurt wrote:what about acid jazz?Mushy Mushy wrote: But anyway who gives a damn. It's acid FFS, not jazz.
thats both!
