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heffus · Post by **heffus** » Fri Sep 06, 2013 4:16 am

Is it possible to host 32-bit plugins with the 64-bit version?

cosmosis · Post by **cosmosis** » Fri Sep 06, 2013 5:23 am

pheeleep wrote:And then again load instances of the plugin in each band until eternity and beyond?

Would this interrupt the space continuum?

As long as you don't divide by zero

Blue Cat Audio · Post by **Blue Cat Audio** » Fri Sep 06, 2013 8:12 am

@hibidy: sorry for the demo limitations. It's not easy to find something that works for everyone...

@Debutante: You did not mis anything, as it is new

About crossovers: they are indeed minimum phase and not linear phase, in order to avoid latency. The reconstruction of the signal is however "perfect" amplitude-wise, as the phase shift is fully compensated. The more bands and the steeper the crossovers, the more phase shift, but it is not a problem in most cases as the amplitude of frequencies still remain untouched.

@Theo: feel free to report this issue to u-He: we'd be glad to get in touch with him to help fix the problem.

@pheeleep: yes you can...

@heffus: it is possible, using an external bridging utility such as jBridge.

yomanfree · Post by **yomanfree** » Fri Sep 06, 2013 10:19 am

Hello
vst3 supported ?
Thanks
Th.

Blue Cat Audio · Post by **Blue Cat Audio** » Fri Sep 06, 2013 10:27 am

It is currently VST2 only.

yomanfree · Post by **yomanfree** » Fri Sep 06, 2013 10:35 am

Thanks
do you plan soon vst3 support ?

Blue Cat Audio · Post by **Blue Cat Audio** » Fri Sep 06, 2013 10:43 am

VST3 will probably be supported in the future, but I couldn't tell when. Why do you absolutely need VST3 support?

S-N-S · Post by **S-N-S** » Fri Sep 06, 2013 12:59 pm

what would be pros using this over the DAWS mixer??

Mushy Mushy · Post by **Mushy Mushy** » Fri Sep 06, 2013 1:27 pm

Has sir looked at this product?

Hint: Keyword - multiband.

mauritius89 · Post by **mauritius89** » Fri Sep 06, 2013 1:41 pm

Is there a way to use Midi for the Plug-Ins in the insert slots? It would be really good for automation and things like that.

Blue Cat Audio · Post by **Blue Cat Audio** » Fri Sep 06, 2013 1:56 pm

@S-N-S: despite its name, it is not "just" a mixer. It splits the incoming audio into several frequency bands that you remix the way you want, "as if" it were a mixer. But each "track" is actually a range of frequencies of the incoming signal.

@mauritius89: yes, exactly for such purposes. The plug-in forwards incoming MIDI events to all inserted plug-ins that suport it, so you can use MIDI to control the parameters of these plug-ins (if they support it). It works with our plug-ins for example.

Compyfox · Post by **Compyfox** » Fri Sep 06, 2013 2:08 pm

You won't read this still, but...

TheoM wrote:PS by the way u-HE satin RC demo is crashing it on mac, BUT, that also crashes metaplugin, so not quite sure whether it's a bug on U-HE's side that will be fixed with next week's official non beta, or if it's a graphic conflict of some kind.

Satin v1818 seems to fix most crashes on my end. Then again, I'm on Windows.

Anyway... I dunno who recommended this plugin to me (maybe it was TheoM himself after all), but I like the concept. If one is not as skilled in terms of modular environments, or can't create custom GUI's with the modular subhost... I think BlueCatAudio's MB-7 is the way to go.

I mean... up to 7 bands, custom VST Plugin load capabiltities. Want to create a multiband distortion with the distortion tool of your choice? Do it.

Want to create band-specific delay? This is possible.

All kinds of weird sh*t is possible with this thing. If only it had a Linear Phase mode, but then again - it's way simpler than using a modular environment.

But I did blow my funds on other tools already (99EUR + VAT would be 119EUR, or the sale with 79EUR + VAT is still roughly 95EUR - don't have the funds anymore).

Blue Cat Audio wrote:VST3 will probably be supported in the future, but I couldn't tell when. Why do you absolutely need VST3 support?

I think it's due to Steinberg announcing to drop the VST2 SDK by the end of the year (and support as of this moment). That, and maybe using external sidechain more easily in Cubase.

yomanfree · Post by **yomanfree** » Fri Sep 06, 2013 3:04 pm

Hi
my first thinking was for sidechaining.
I've read in the meantime your tuto http://www.bluecataudio.com/Tutorials/T ... SideChain/

If I've understood well, to be honest it seems to me a bit complicated for this feature and request to use another Blue Cat effect as source (I guess DP meter or some other Blue Cat free plugin - which ones have the B1/B2 gain?). Correct?
I'm not sure too about all involvements. Means all loaded plugins in MB7 can have overall 1 SC source ?
How it works with the loaded plugins in MB7 (I guess you use the SC of the plugin and here I think to waves etc...)?

Whatever, your plugin seems great and really well though (like Theo wrote for the fader for exemple). Give me the desire to try it back from holidays ....
I take the opportunity of this thread to tell you that I really like your DP meter Pro globally (and the idea of output enveloppe)

Thanks

Blue Cat Audio · Post by **Blue Cat Audio** » Fri Sep 06, 2013 3:13 pm

Satin v1818 seems to fix most crashes on my end. Then again, I'm on Windows.

Thanks for the heads up! Good to know.

I think it's due to Steinberg announcing to drop the VST2 SDK by the end of the year (and support as of this moment). That, and maybe using external sidechain more easily in Cubase.

I don't want to launch a debate about this here, but I would not worry about that. Anyway, if the time comes when VST2 actually disappears from Cubase, we'll probably be the first to support VST3, just the same way we supported 64-bit on all platforms as well as AAX etc.

@yomanfree: you indeed need one of our envelope generation plug-ins (the MB-7 Mixer is actually one of them!). But it can be used to control the parameters of any plug-in that supports MIDI CC control. You can have as many SC sources control as many destination plug-ins inside the Mixer (just setup different channel numbers or MIDI CC numbers). That's the great thing with MIDI: you can pass lots of controls inside a single wire.

BTW, the tutorial mentoned above is a bit old, and it is now much easier to setup the MIDI side chain (with "learn" now available from the user interface for most plug-ins). Updated tutorials pending...

Compyfox · Post by **Compyfox** » Sat Sep 07, 2013 12:14 am

Just for your info: haven't tested the new MB-7 v2 yet, so I can't tell how SATIN performs in there, but most crashes in Cubase were solved at least (VST3).

But regarding your mixing console - two FRs, and let's see if they're possible:

FR1: Linear Phase or Minimum Phase Mode
The reason should be fairly simple to understand: phase coherence. Especially important while mastering and pulling of crazy effects. I don't know how well the engine can be enhanced, but I'd like to see that. And yes, I'd take the risk of a higher CPU usage.

FR2: Parallel EQ Bands
Currently, MB-7 handles the bands in serial mode. But what about "parallel" mode? This way we could allocate far wider frequency bands and mix them along. M/S is possible already, but think about the possibilities of a parallel mode (aside from creating a parallel EQ).

So yeah... keeping my eyes on this. Definitely an interesting piece of plugin.

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