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audientronic · Post by **audientronic** » Sat Sep 07, 2013 12:37 am

Never mind. Answered my own question.

maxxxter · Post by **maxxxter** » Sat Sep 07, 2013 12:42 am

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Blue Cat Audio · Post by **Blue Cat Audio** » Sat Sep 07, 2013 4:55 am

@Compyfox:
FR1 (Linear Phase mode): now that most hosts seem to support dynamic latency changes almost properly, it could indeed be an option . The main issue is the additional latency, which can become really a problem if inserting plug-ins which already have latency. As you may know, we don't like latency

FR2 (parallel bands): I am not sure I understand what you mean. The bands are currently processed in parallel, actually (just look at the curve when you boost or cut and you will see it). There is no other way to do it btw, since effects have to be applied in parallel. If made in series, the plug-ins inserted on the last band would affect all others.

Compyfox · Post by **Compyfox** » Sat Sep 07, 2013 11:32 am

FR1:
Well, yes I know you're anti latency, but it's worth a shot. Equilibrium by DMG Audio can also be switched, and it works like a charm for most users. Only the host needs to play along.

FR2 (parallel bands):
Really? It is in parallel mode already (okay, serial connection would indeed not make any sense if it's influencing the following bands)? But why can't we set the crossover points independent then? They are currently linked to each corresponding upper and lower band.

Unless I am misunderstanding something with this tool?

audientronic · Post by **audientronic** » Sat Sep 07, 2013 3:07 pm

This thing rocks.

Can't get Fabfilters to load without crashing. (Mac, Studio One)

But almost everything else works!

bmanic · Post by **bmanic** » Sat Sep 07, 2013 5:06 pm

I've got quite a few crashes on my Windows 8 laptop running Reaper. Mainly combinations of Nebula instances.. two instances seem stable but adding a 3rd or a 4th almost always crashes MB7 and Reaper.

It's about time somebody created this plugin. I think we had a thread about this kind of plugin about 6 or 7 years ago here on KvR. Don't know why nobody has done this before.. it's such an amazingly useful tool.

Of course any Reaper user can create their own multi-band split using the Split&Join JS plugins within reaper but this tool is much easier and more convenient to use.

The possibilities are literally limitless. This is the FSU plugin to end all plugins (at least if you have a 100+ plugin toolset like some of us..

).

I just combined Satin, FF Timeless, ValhallaRoom and had a blast! Amazing sweet chaos!

EDIT: there are a few missed opportunities here though.. for instance, why no VSTi hosting and midi signal pass through? Or am I doing something wrong? Also, why is there no support for drag&drop of effects from one slot to another. As it is now it's extremely cumbersome to change the order of effects.

Cheers!
bManic

Breeze · Post by **Breeze** » Sat Sep 07, 2013 5:21 pm

bmanic wrote:It's about time somebody created this plugin. I think we had a thread about this kind of plugin about 6 or 7 years ago here on KvR. Don't know why nobody has done this before.. it's such an amazingly useful tool.

Not to take away from the practicality MB-7 brings to the table, but it's been possible to do this for years with Plogue's Bidule; although more complex because you have to do your own wiring to accomplish it, you have the benefit of customizing the setup to specific needs and use whatever filters you want. I've been using Bidule that way for a long time. MB-7 packages one wiring setup, provides an elegant and functional GUI for it, and makes it neater and quicker to use.

quayquay17 · Post by **quayquay17** » Sat Sep 07, 2013 6:36 pm

pheeleep wrote:Haven't demoed but if I load this plugin as a VST in itself, in each band, does it work?

7 x 7 = 49 bands?

And then again load instances of the plugin in each band until eternity and beyond?

Would this interrupt the space continuum?

Seems like you could squeeze more bands out of this by loading it or any other multiband VST in one of the 4 VST slots..

For all the times you need 10 bands?

Debutante · Post by **Debutante** » Sat Sep 07, 2013 6:40 pm

Breeze wrote:
bmanic wrote:It's about time somebody created this plugin. I think we had a thread about this kind of plugin about 6 or 7 years ago here on KvR. Don't know why nobody has done this before.. it's such an amazingly useful tool.
Not to take away from the practicality MB-7 brings to the table, but it's been possible to do this for years with Plogue's Bidule; although more complex because you have to do your own wiring to accomplish it, you have the benefit of customizing the setup to specific needs and use whatever filters you want. I've been using Bidule that way for a long time. MB-7 packages one wiring setup, provides an elegant and functional GUI for it, and makes it neater and quicker to use.

...and that's why this is so awesome. Its a one stop shop. there's not that many times a year you get excited about "tools" but his is definitely one such time. I see the linear question was already posed, so I'm wondering if you might consider adding a linear option?? or a premium version?

ObsoleteAcc99 · Post by **ObsoleteAcc99** » Sat Sep 07, 2013 7:03 pm

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Blue Cat Audio · Post by **Blue Cat Audio** » Sat Sep 07, 2013 8:53 pm

Compyfox wrote:FR1:
But why can't we set the crossover points independent then? They are currently linked to each corresponding upper and lower band.

Not sure why you would not want adjacent bands?!?

bmanic wrote: why no VSTi hosting and midi signal pass through? Or am I doing something wrong? Also, why is there no support for drag&drop of effects from one slot to another. As it is now it's extremely cumbersome to change the order of effects.

MIDI events are actually forwarded to all instantiated plug-ins. Lots of people are using our plug-in to host VSTis in Pro Tools for example.
We'll be working on copy/paste and move features in a future release. As you may know we keep improving our products over time. But sometimes you just have to release something!

About Fab Filter plug-ins on Mac: they indeed crash for a weird reason. We'll probably have to get in touch with them to have it fixed.

audientronic · Post by **audientronic** » Sat Sep 07, 2013 9:10 pm

Does the previous customer coupon work on the Blue Cat's MB Dynamix Pack as well?

I'm greedy.

Compyfox · Post by **Compyfox** » Sat Sep 07, 2013 9:18 pm

Blue Cat Audio wrote:
Compyfox wrote:FR1:
But why can't we set the crossover points independent then? They are currently linked to each corresponding upper and lower band.
Not sure why you would not want adjacent bands?!?

Oh don't get me wrong here! Using a multi band environment like this does have it's use.

But I'm thinking more like "overlapping" bands parallel to the "dry" one, or other processed ones.

For example with three bands:

Band 1:
20Hz to 600Hz - could be for lofi distortion or bass enhancement
350Hz to 2,5kHz - could be stereo enhanced and mixed along
500Hz to 20khz - added delay.

I could cover more ground.

Actually, parallel EQ's like the Variety of Sound XTC or the Kush Audio Clariphonic use frequency bands that overlap. Since each signal does indeed run in parallel and is not bandlimited.

And this is what I'm aiming at. Pretty much like using a mixing console, with 3 channels in parallel, processing an audio signal that is then bandlimited. But it's not setup to move seemlessly into another band.

bmanic · Post by **bmanic** » Sun Sep 08, 2013 3:52 pm

Breeze wrote:
bmanic wrote:It's about time somebody created this plugin. I think we had a thread about this kind of plugin about 6 or 7 years ago here on KvR. Don't know why nobody has done this before.. it's such an amazingly useful tool.
Not to take away from the practicality MB-7 brings to the table, but it's been possible to do this for years with Plogue's Bidule; although more complex because you have to do your own wiring to accomplish it, you have the benefit of customizing the setup to specific needs and use whatever filters you want. I've been using Bidule that way for a long time. MB-7 packages one wiring setup, provides an elegant and functional GUI for it, and makes it neater and quicker to use.

I know, it's been possible with the original Energy XT for a long time too.. but the point is to have a simple tool, not a modular one, where you can easily split the bands as you like. There have been also other solutions but not an easy to use all-in-one multiband splitting thing.

Cheers!
bManic

bmanic · Post by **bmanic** » Sun Sep 08, 2013 3:53 pm

Blue Cat Audio wrote:
bmanic wrote: why no VSTi hosting and midi signal pass through? Or am I doing something wrong? Also, why is there no support for drag&drop of effects from one slot to another. As it is now it's extremely cumbersome to change the order of effects.
MIDI events are actually forwarded to all instantiated plug-ins. Lots of people are using our plug-in to host VSTis in Pro Tools for example.
We'll be working on copy/paste and move features in a future release. As you may know we keep improving our products over time. But sometimes you just have to release something!

Well I can't get any VSTi plugins working within MB7. They load up just fine but I can't play them.

Cheers!
bManic

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