Cubase 7.06 is out

[SODDI]

It's not just IKM. A lot of tools' presets and settings are installed in the user account you install the software to.

In my case, that'd be "Studio".

Now, if I'd run the program as admin, it won't see the presets for this particular VST/VSTi. Especially not if you made your own presets.

This is a severe issue to consider. And a lot of devs know about this. Actually, one developer told me (during beta testing) that this issue is bound to a compiler issue for Windows. So if you don't stay up to date with that, chances are you won't be able to use the plugins you bought.

As in case of IKM: Wavelab needs to run as admin in order to "not be" in demo mode. IKM is aware of this, yet gives a sh*t.

I have not yet run into any problems with this, but I will be aware going forward, thanks.

At least it shuts down properly.

[Compyfox]

Ever considered turning off the user account management system in Windows?

[SODDI]

Ever considered turning off the user account management system in Windows?

I think you misuderstand. This is a completely makeshift, improv, dumbass fix I arrived at on my own and I would have never thought of it if SynthMaster hadn't required that I run Cubase in admin mode back in May. It's only dumb luck that it works as it does.

And it is ONLY for Cubase 7 and only because it is the only way the damn program will shut down normally. Forget to run in admin mode and it hangs on quit. (Thanks to the Steinberg techs for their less-than-stellar guesswork. 10 for enthusiasm, zero for accuracy, guys.)

I have no problems with Windows or my administrator settings. Windows runs fine, has run fine for a year and 2 months. All my other programs, standalones like the NI suite, Wavelab, Acid, even ancient synths like SynCModular run fine.

I had no problems running Cubase 5.5 on this machine. I "ran" Cubase 7 on this machine at normal settings with only the inherent horrible ASIO, timing and MIDI problems.

Cubase 7 is the only one of my programs that I have had to do such computer gymnastics over and I resent the hell out of it.

It's not Windows, it's not me, it's Cubase. Steinberg is more than happy to have everyone pointing their fingers at something else, anything else so that they don't have to solve the problems.

There's only so many times I'm willing to tear apart my computer's operating system and my physical studio so that I can run this POS software maybe 50% of the time. I'm past that limit.

[fese]

Your best bet to get around the 8 insert limitations use big cat mb7 which will add another 4 plus multiband if desired. That's what I do but in reality it has been so rare to run out its 8, only when I have done the most ridiculously bizarre effect that required tons of plugins. However it is indeed weird that cubase has the very lowest number of insert slots available compared to any of the big boys but furthermore I think it has the lowest amount of insert slots period, of ANY daw. Such a requested feature to increase it and their stubbornness on the issue is quite bizarre. One thing I do love at least is that you get two post fader inserts, but then again if I'm doing gain staging with some other plugin early in the chain I'd also like the option of making these pre fader like the others and I am not sure it an be done. So in some cases its only really 6 useful insert lots. Weird. Actually no that I am using tape, Channel vu with gain and saturation or console type per channel there's three already.. Hmmmm.. Never thought of that.. When I used to use cubase these things didnt exist but are now part of my workflow. Yes ateinberg, more inserts please! Just double it, why not?

Yes, you are right, one can work around the limitations (meta plugin would also be a way), but as you say, nowadays with separate gain staging and tape sim and console sim plugins, 6 pre-fader slots can feel limited yeah, problems I didn't have with my tascam portastudio back in the pre-war days...
One really wonders why they didn't change that when they rewrote the mixer... My guess is that it's deep in the audio engine and there's no one left who fully understands it...
But then as Cubase has an input gain, you can remove that fancy gain staging plugin again if one actually needs three more compressors in a row

[I. Lehti]

I've checked on the Cubase forums under Issues and Resolved Issues and can't seem to find my issue. I bought into the upgrade at .04 and in the 64 bit version I saw right away that Logical Presets under the MIDI menu was greyed out. So I went searching for this. Nothing I seemed to see in Preferences would do that. All the menus are there in the 32 bit version. Does anyone else have this issue? Does anyone know how I can start using these menu functions in the 64 bit version? Thanks.

[SJ_Digriz]

I saw right away that Logical Presets under the MIDI menu was greyed out... Does anyone know how I can start using these menu functions in the 64 bit version? Thanks.

Select a MIDI event or open a midi event in the midi editor.

[I. Lehti]

Thanks for your reply, but no matter what I do the main Midi menu function Logical Presets is greyed out, and it's never been greyed out by default before. I've even tried Edit Midi in Place in the Project window, I can select ten Midi events and a thousand notes and the menu function with all of it's sub-functions are still greyed out. I thought I would get it back with the .06 update but it's still like that in 64 bit. It's THERE in 32 bit. Now I'm wondering if I should re-download and re-install.

[SJ_Digriz]

sorry, no clue. I run x64 on Win 8 now exclusively. It's there, so it isn't a bug. But the Cubase installers are total shit balls. Lots of "uninstall everything" BS as suggestions when you get weird results from a point release. Followed by the "trash your preferences" recommendation. Cubase is a mess right now from an install/configure/admin standpoint. Once it's working it's been really stable for me. I won't bore you with my thoughts on the C7 mixer.

[kmonkey]

sorry, no clue. I run x64 on Win 8 now exclusively. It's there, so it isn't a bug. But the Cubase installers are total shit balls. Lots of "uninstall everything" BS as suggestions when you get weird results from a point release. Followed by the "trash your preferences" recommendation. Cubase is a mess right now from an install/configure/admin standpoint. Once it's working it's been really stable for me. I won't bore you with my thoughts on the C7 mixer.

IMHO Steinberg need to develop some kind of "cleaning" tool for their installer. Could be a good idea.

Btw since i play with logical editor a lot (at company studio) i can confirm it's there and not greyed out. Definitely your setup/thing or something. I know it's not helping but at least we know it's down to your machine and not global bug..

[CableChannel]

Thanks for your reply, but no matter what I do the main Midi menu function Logical Presets is greyed out, and it's never been greyed out by default before. I've even tried Edit Midi in Place in the Project window, I can select ten Midi events and a thousand notes and the menu function with all of it's sub-functions are still greyed out. I thought I would get it back with the .06 update but it's still like that in 64 bit. It's THERE in 32 bit. Now I'm wondering if I should re-download and re-install.

This might have to do with the folders for the presets.

First thing, with all installations always check that "install for all users" box. As I remember that's the way to go with Cubase installations.

Now you can try to fix the logic presets by moving them from "C:\Program Files\Steinberg\Cubase 7\Presets" to "C:\Users\%USERNAME%\AppData\Roaming\Steinberg\Cubase7_64\Presets".

[Guillermo Navarrete]

Hello all,

@Guillermo:
Let's bring up the "Steinberg listens to their customers" thing again.

Any chance to see the FR with the insert handling (like Logic, S1, Protools!), that so many people posted and requested, actually being ported? Or is this yet another waste of time to re-bump that in the Steinberg FR threads?

Actually, Steinberg also gave a <censored> about my FR with the EBU R-128 meter configuration. So why did I waste an evening to post a list with 21 FRs, if Steinberg is like "cool and such - but have you seen what WE did for YOU?! Even though YOU don't need it?! Now isn't that awesome?!"

Yes, we are reading, but regarding the inserts, they will remain as they are.

Somebody asked for a picture… I do not remember who though.
Here is a picture of the full mixer on my system (Mac OS X 10.8.X).
Cubase 7.0.6

Hi,

Does the un-Install automatically trash the preferences as well . or Do I need to manually trash my current preferences ?

Will my preferences be rebuilt again when I re-install (provided I did not delete the pref.) ?

Any feedback on this would be helpful.

Thanks,
Muziksculp

IF you are on a Mac you need to uninstall the application and delete the preferences manually.

On a PC (Most of the times) If you uninstall the application from the control panel it should also delete the preferences.

If you do not want to lose your preferences you can copy them into a new empty folder on your desktop uninstall Cubase, reinstall from the Core installer, upgrade to 7.0.6 and then copy back the files that you need.
E.g. Key commands.

@SODDI:

You can set Cubase (or any other application) to run always as administrator.
-Right clic on top of the application icon.
-On the contextual menu go to properties.
-Select the compatibility tab.
-Under privilege level select: "Run this application as administrator".

You should lower the security level for the UAC (User account centre) for windows to avoid the annoying pop up every time you start the application.

This way you do not have to worry about starting cubase as admin every time you open the application

Best regards,
GN

[Compyfox]

Yes, we are reading, but regarding the inserts, they will remain as they are.

This is BS and you know that! (don't let me get started on the handling again!)


Reading along doesn't help if no FR is ported. So my 21 FR's, plus the "+1's" and other stuff I posted on Steinberg.net was a waste of my time after all. Because, yes, Steinbeg does give a sh*t.

[Muziksculp]

@ Guillermo Navarrete,

Thanks for the feedback.

Yes, I already copied my Preferences to a folder (since I have a complex system, this will save me some time, I'm on a PC/Windows 7). I will un-install, and re-install via the Core Installer. then Update to 7.0.6

Q1. Is the core installer on the Steinberg Website ? and what version would it install first ? I would need to update to 7.0.5 first, and then to 7.0.6, or can I update to 7.0.6 directly after the Core-Install is completed ?

Sorry if I'm asking too many questions, but I think Steinberg needs to improve their INSTALLER . I see no reason for me to need tech. support just to update Cubase, if the INSTALLER was built better, and handled updates smoothly (as it usually did).

Q2. Do you have any idea why I got all these strange GUI glitches when I updated from 7.0.5 to 7.0.6 via the INSTALLER ?

Please note that I had no issues with installing updates since version 7.0 was released all the way to 7.0.5, but installing 7.0.6 from 7.0.5 was an exception, so I feel it is the fault of the INSTALLER.

Q3. Has the INSTALLER been updated since 7.0.6 was released, or there was no change to the INSTALLER code since 7.0.6 was released ?

Your feedback would be appreciated.


Cheers,
Muzksculp

[Guillermo Navarrete]

Hello,

Yes, we are reading, but regarding the inserts, they will remain as they are.

This is BS and you know that! (don't let me get started on the handling again!)


Reading along doesn't help if no FR is ported. So my 21 FR's, plus the "+1's" and other stuff I posted on Steinberg.net was a waste of my time after all. Because, yes, Steinbeg does give a sh*t.

It doesn't mean that the whole list passed unheard, but this has been closed.
I am sorry, but I couldn't make anything else

@ Guillermo Navarrete,

Thanks for the feedback.

Yes, I already copied my Preferences to a folder (since I have a complex system, this will save me some time, I'm on a PC/Windows 7). I will un-install, and re-install via the Core Installer. then Update to 7.0.6

Q1. Is the core installer on the Steinberg Website ? and what version would it install first ? I would need to update to 7.0.5 first, and then to 7.0.6, or can I update to 7.0.6 directly after the Core-Install is completed ?

Yes it is: http://www.steinberg.net/en/support/dow ... ase_7.html
No, you need to uninstall Cubase 7, but only Cubase 7 not the content, then download and install the Cubase 7.0.0 Core-Installer and update directly to Cubase 7.0.6.
You do not need to go through 7.0.5.

Sorry if I'm asking too many questions, but I think Steinberg needs to improve their INSTALLER . I see no reason for me to need tech. support just to update Cubase, if the INSTALLER was built better, and handled updates smoothly (as it usually did).

Actually the installer is fine, in some cases, it is the previously installed version the one that does not allows the installer to update properly.

Q2. Do you have any idea why I got all these strange GUI glitches when I updated from 7.0.5 to 7.0.6 via the INSTALLER ?

There was a problem with the Skin, introduced with the installer of 7.0.2 or 7.0.3 but I am not completely sure, it is actually an old problem. As it was not touched on 7.0.5 the issue didn't showed up until now.

Please note that I had no issues with installing updates since version 7.0 was released all the way to 7.0.5, but installing 7.0.6 from 7.0.5 was an exception, so I feel it is the fault of the INSTALLER.

Q3. Has the INSTALLER been updated since 7.0.6 was released, or there was no change to the INSTALLER code since 7.0.6 was released ?

No update whatsoever.

Your feedback would be appreciated.


Cheers,
Muzksculp

That is why I am here for

Best regards,
GN

[standalone]

Reading along doesn't help if no FR is ported. So my 21 FR's, plus the "+1's" and other stuff I posted on Steinberg.net was a waste of my time after all. Because, yes, Steinbeg does give a sh*t.

If you so want a daw tailored to your own personal tastes maybe it's time that you code your own personal daw.

I understand that anyone can get mad with non-fixed bugs, but ranting because of unattended FRs, come on!