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UltraJv · Post by **UltraJv** » Fri Apr 20, 2012 2:01 pm

Recently got back into Pink Floyd. Cant help but noticing on Wish you were here (welcome to the Machine) a distinctive Tangerine Dream sound - particulur gutar/synth sounds/chords. So who inspired who?

Laguna Rising · Post by **Laguna Rising** » Fri Apr 20, 2012 2:07 pm

Well, everybody is entitled to have a different opinion, but I believe they were developing a similar sound at the same moment. They both were experimenting with sintesizers at the time (more or less)

theorganic · Post by **theorganic** » Fri Apr 20, 2012 3:12 pm

It's maybe related to the kind of machine used.
Very particular tone for the same machine

trimph1 · Post by **trimph1** » Fri Apr 20, 2012 6:09 pm

Or something close...

UltraJv · Post by **UltraJv** » Sat Apr 21, 2012 2:25 pm

I almost expected a fight and maybe a ban or two

Laguna Rising · Post by **Laguna Rising** » Sat Apr 21, 2012 2:27 pm

Numanoid · Post by **Numanoid** » Mon Sep 23, 2013 8:08 pm

UltraJv wrote:Recently got back into Pink Floyd. Cant help but noticing on Wish you were here (welcome to the Machine) a distinctive Tangerine Dream sound - particulur gutar/synth sounds/chords. So who inspired who?

On another note, I've stumbled upon the filtered drum loop on Through Metamorphic Rocks (on Force Majeur) on several occasions lately, on records by David Holmes, Ron Boots, Deep Dish, etc.

So I guess Edgar Froese got some influence yes.

But when it comes to Pink Floyd/Tangerine Dream is another matter. Difficult to say, but I dig this clip with Waters rocking out on the synth though

Don't get fooled if they try to sell the synth second hand that it has been used in a smoke-free studio though

palebluedun · Post by **palebluedun** » Mon Sep 23, 2013 10:10 pm

I remember reading Edgar saying Pink Floyd was a very big influence but not the only influence. The thing to remember is that Pink Floyd were using Abby Road studios and Syd spent a great deal of time there by himself just recording, experimenting, and that stuff stayed there at the studio. If you listen for it you'll hear a lot of Syd's "influence" on a lot of people's, famous peoples, recordings. Syd and Rick Wright changed music a lot and should get credit as well as the other members of Pink Floyd.

I'll try to find that article as I read it on line just a few years ago, but you could probably google it and find it faster than I.

Watch that video of Pink Floyd recorded in London in '66/'67 and take note who's in the audience. Notice the changes in their music after.

fatwhitelump · Post by **fatwhitelump** » Mon Sep 23, 2013 10:31 pm

palebluedun wrote: Watch that video of Pink Floyd recorded in London in '66/'67 and take note who's in the audience. Notice the changes in their music after.

Sgt Peppers and Piper at the Gates of Dawn were both recorded simultaneously in Abbey Road studios...right down the hall from each other.

fmr · Post by **fmr** » Mon Sep 23, 2013 10:43 pm

palebluedun wrote:I remember reading Edgar saying Pink Floyd was a very big influence but not the only influence. The thing to remember is that Pink Floyd were using Abby Road studios and Syd spent a great deal of time there by himself just recording, experimenting, and that stuff stayed there at the studio. If you listen for it you'll hear a lot of Syd's "influence" on a lot of people's, famous peoples, recordings. Syd and Rick Wright changed music a lot and should get credit as well as the other members of Pink Floyd.

I'll try to find that article as I read it on line just a few years ago, but you could probably google it and find it faster than I.

Watch that video of Pink Floyd recorded in London in '66/'67 and take note who's in the audience. Notice the changes in their music after.

Syd abandoned the Pink Floyd in 1968. Wish You Were Here (which, BTW, is dedicated to him) is from 1975.
TD Phaedra (the first successful album) is from 1973. So, I would say that they were evolving more or less at the same time. OTOH, Meddle is from 1971, and is the first album that has those electronic atmospheres and landscapes.

Numanoid · Post by **Numanoid** » Tue Sep 24, 2013 5:46 pm

palebluedun wrote:Watch that video of Pink Floyd recorded in London in '66/'67 and take note who's in the audience. Notice the changes in their music after.

A bit like Sex Pistols in Manchester '76? More or less everyone in the audience started up a band afterwards.

palebluedun · Post by **palebluedun** » Tue Sep 24, 2013 8:30 pm

Yes, anyone good evolves, and anyone hearing something good know that's who you let influence you like a fine marinate.

Listen to "Atem". It's pure Tangerine, but if somebody said Syd, Nick or Rick helped I'd half believe them.

Sometimes a band reaches out and bites everyone on the ass and everybody wants to be "an Antichrist"

We are men of our times, aye?

robogone · Post by **robogone** » Tue Sep 24, 2013 9:29 pm

Numanoid wrote:
palebluedun wrote:Watch that video of Pink Floyd recorded in London in '66/'67 and take note who's in the audience. Notice the changes in their music after.
A bit like Sex Pistols in Manchester '76? More or less everyone in the audience started up a band afterwards.

It's amazing how many people claim to be at that gig though, yet those who definitely were claim that it was very poorly attended....

palebluedun · Post by **palebluedun** » Tue Sep 24, 2013 11:28 pm

Consider this-- when I was a little guy there was a rock festival on some guy's farm near Bethel, NY just south about 50 miles from Woodstock. Best estimates figured about 400,000 people attended in and around the concert area. Most of whom probably were seeing in triple too. I've been told by what seems like a million that they were there waking up to Jefferson Airplane while living on love and pot (and mud). At least half those people were younger than me!

Then they shipped out for "The Nam".

People like to talk, aye?

Makes me smile.

Sometimes.

Helps explain a little what happen to the American economic machine.

Ok-- I'm being a drag. Sorry

whyterabbyt · Post by **whyterabbyt** » Wed Sep 25, 2013 9:05 am

robojam wrote:
Numanoid wrote:
palebluedun wrote:Watch that video of Pink Floyd recorded in London in '66/'67 and take note who's in the audience. Notice the changes in their music after.
A bit like Sex Pistols in Manchester '76? More or less everyone in the audience started up a band afterwards.
It's amazing how many people claim to be at that gig though, yet those who definitely were claim that it was very poorly attended....

It's even more amazing that Ive known several people claim to have seen them when they played the Glasgow Apollo in 76.(*) Including folk I was at school with who would have been ten.

(The fact that the Apollo had, I think, a 14-and-over policy notwithstanding, its hard to attend a cancelled gig)

Who influenced who?