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aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Wed Sep 25, 2013 1:26 pm

whyterabbyt wrote:
aMUSEd wrote:
whyterabbyt wrote:
mabian wrote:
Spiritos wrote:
J4R1O wrote:I see the pattern and there will be bad news. All the funds they get from Gibson won't help them get back on their feet.
As a relatively new user to Sonar X2 and being unfamiliar with earlier collaborations regarding Gibson or Tascam can you explain to me why you feel this new venture will not benefit Cakewalks' products?
Search for GigaStudio and Opcode endeavours and you could have some clues...

- Mario
Could you maybe provide some vaguely recent clues? Say within the last half-decade?
Is there anything they have done in the last half-decade that would help restore confidence in their ability to sustain interest in a software product of Sonar's standing?
At what point did that become my purview to provide?

It's not; but it seems a reasonable question to ask.

fmr · Post by **fmr** » Wed Sep 25, 2013 1:32 pm

LATER...

ObsoleteAcc99 · Post by **ObsoleteAcc99** » Wed Sep 25, 2013 3:55 pm

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vintagevibe · Post by **vintagevibe** » Wed Sep 25, 2013 5:13 pm

trimph1 wrote:mmmmm...I seem to recall something along that line but there was this....

NOT my favorite!!!!

I think that is a very cool, capable and well thought out instrument. It's just too expensive.

fmr · Post by **fmr** » Wed Sep 25, 2013 6:40 pm

whyterabbyt wrote:
aMUSEd wrote:
whyterabbyt wrote:
mabian wrote:
Spiritos wrote:
J4R1O wrote:I see the pattern and there will be bad news. All the funds they get from Gibson won't help them get back on their feet.
As a relatively new user to Sonar X2 and being unfamiliar with earlier collaborations regarding Gibson or Tascam can you explain to me why you feel this new venture will not benefit Cakewalks' products?
Search for GigaStudio and Opcode endeavours and you could have some clues...

- Mario
Could you maybe provide some vaguely recent clues? Say within the last half-decade?
Is there anything they have done in the last half-decade that would help restore confidence in their ability to sustain interest in a software product of Sonar's standing?
At what point did that become my purview to provide?

OK, for those that still believe in Santa, here is a story told in almost first person regarding the facts behind the (probably unknown to the vast mojority) story of the Oberheim OB-Mx. The OB-Mx was one of the biggest projects runned by Oberheim while owned by Gibson, and it was a complete disaster. In total despair, Buchla was called to save the project. He came on board, together with his old friend D N "Linx" Crowe, and they managed to create a unit that not only worked but was great. Gibson manage to screw them, and in the end the whole project sunk. Read the sordid details behind. This story very much "illustrates" Gibson way of doing business. Maybe this will help understand the fears some of us expressed regarding this deal:
http://web.archive.org/web/200504070210 ... ick01.html
or a summary of the story here:
http://web.archive.org/web/200609042212 ... mmary.html

whyterabbyt · Post by **whyterabbyt** » Wed Sep 25, 2013 7:10 pm

TheoM wrote:
whyterabbyt wrote:
At what point did that become my purview to provide?
Since you asked for examples of the opposite!

Uh, Really. Youre seriously trying to claim that my asking for something more current than was originally used for a prediction means I'm obligated to supply evidence to prove the opposite of that prediction, are you?
Even though you don't know why I asked, what my opinions are on the matter, or whether I support the notion you want me to validate. Even though 'the opposite' has absolutely nothing to do with the original question. Even though I neither discounted the statements made, or the proposition I was asking about, nor offered an alternative viewpoint in argument.

Piss off with that shite, Theo. Neither you nor Stephen actually have a horse in this race, as neither of you actively use the bloody software, but I still do, so I'd like information more information on something that affects me, but has f**k-all relevance to either of you. You're trying to tell me what and how I can ask about something that affects me, when it has no f**king relevance to either of you? That I can't ask about a situation that affects me unless I start by 'proving'' something utterly f**king unrelated I don't care about to people who -aren't- affected? Gfy.

dsan@mail.com · Post by **dsan@mail.com** » Wed Sep 25, 2013 7:22 pm

Have you heard the one 'bout the two old maids that got on a drunk?

They nearly killed the poor guy.

Happy Musiking!
dsan

burkek · Post by **burkek** » Wed Sep 25, 2013 7:45 pm

The only company getting rich off this pre-availability announcement is Steinberg/Yamaha.

KEv

hibidy · Post by **hibidy** » Wed Sep 25, 2013 8:11 pm

EDIT, ooops, I got my threads mixed up, so just n/m

SODDI · Post by **SODDI** » Wed Sep 25, 2013 8:34 pm

fmr wrote:This story very much "illustrates" Gibson way of doing business. Maybe this will help understand the fears some of us expressed regarding this deal:
http://web.archive.org/web/200504070210 ... ick01.html
or a summary of the story here:
http://web.archive.org/web/200609042212 ... mmary.html

Fascinating story.

And they called it ZIPI.

ObsoleteAcc99 · Post by **ObsoleteAcc99** » Wed Sep 25, 2013 10:35 pm

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hibidy · Post by **hibidy** » Wed Sep 25, 2013 10:43 pm

Careful, you'll get banned for such blasphemy!

ObsoleteAcc99 · Post by **ObsoleteAcc99** » Wed Sep 25, 2013 10:47 pm

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BBFG# · Post by **BBFG#** » Wed Sep 25, 2013 11:00 pm

burkek wrote:The only company getting rich off this pre-availability announcement is Steinberg/Yamaha.
KEv

Ironically, it was while trying to get my Yamaha 5AI dongle re-authorized and buy an upgrade that I finally got tired of being ignored and wound up buying Sonar. I don't have any predictions here, but I do have a personal feeling of an impending demise. So I'm back on the trail of looking for another replacement, just in case.

Cakewalk Sonar X3